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Ceton Echo – Windows Media Center Extender Watch Live & Recorded TV/HDTV Access Personal Media Libraries on Any TV on Home Network, HDMI Interface, Remote Included

  • Watch live and recorded TV
  • Access your photos, music video
  • Windows 7 compatible
  • Supports PCs w/ or without TV tuner
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A great addition to your home entertainment, the Ceton Echo is a network-based extender that brings Windows Media Center experience to any TV in your home. Compatible with Windows 7, it allows you to watch live and recorded TVs, stream photo, music and video from connected computer, without cable box fees and DVR taxes. The ultra low power consumption and petite size contribute to a great saving on electricity cost and space, compared with Xbox 360 used as an extender. This unit is powered by USB connection without additional adapter, allowing enhanced placement flexibility and ease of use. (Live and recorded TV/DVR features require a TV tuner with your PC)




 

  • newegg Works with any tuner! Connect the Ceton Echo to a TV set and enjoy live TV, DVR and all your personal media in any room. Transform your Windows Media Center PC into the whole-home entertainment box you’ve always wanted. And for a lot less than you’re probably paying today. (Live and recorded TV/DVR features require a TV tuner with your PC)
  • newegg The Ultimate Media Center Sidekick Bring your Windows Media Center experience to any TV in the home. Watch live and recorded channels without needing a set-top box. (Live and recorded TV/DVR features require a TV tuner with your PC)
  • newegg Echo-Friendly & Echo-Nomical Save up to $60 a year on electricity alone compared to using a cable box or an Xbox 360 used as an extender. (Power savings based on U.S. Department of Energy published electrical rates, April 2012, comparing Ceton Echo to a high-definition DVR cable set-top box and an Xbox 360 used as a Media Center Extender.)
  • newegg Access Your Personal Media Libraries Enjoy all your music, photos and videos on any TV in any room.
  • newegg Works great with Ceton Companion Use you mobile phone or tablet to manage your media library, select shows and play using the Echo and even use your mobile as a killer remote control.
  • newegg Premium DVR Capability without Cable Box Fees and DVR "Taxes" Enjoy DVR on every TV set without having to lease a set-top box or pay DVR fees. You can also watch your recordings on every TV set. You can even pause a show in one room and resume in another. (Live and recorded TV/DVR features require a TV tuner with your PC)

Learn more about the Ceton 6100-MCX

Model

Brand
Ceton
Model
6100-MCX

General

Type
Windows Media Center Extender
Remote Control
Remote Included
Interface
HDMI

Features

Features
Enjoy live TV and DVR on every TV set

Access your photos, music, videos and movie libraries

Get rid of your cable box fees and DVR taxes

Works with any Windows 7 PC with Media Center

Supports PCs with Ceton TV tuners, with non-Ceton TV tuners and without TV tuners

Specifications

Video Format
MPEG-1, MPEG-2, H.264, WMV9
Audio
Dolby Digital AC-3, MP3, PCM, WMA, WMA Pro
Image Format
BMP, GIF, JPG, PNG, TIF
Specifications
Product Size: 4.3" x 3.9" x 0.8"
Power Consumption: less than 5 watts
Outputs: HDMI, Optical Digital Audio (TOSLINK)
Other Connectors: USB 2.0, Mini USB (for power)
Network: Ethernet (10/100/1000)

System Requirements

Operating Systems Supported
PC with Microsoft Windows 7 with Media Center.
Others
Display with HDMI input
Wired Ethernet network
A PC with a TV tuner is required for TV and DVR features.

Packaging

Package Contents
Ceton Echo
Remote control
USB power cable and adapter
HDMI cable
Ethernet cable
Quick Start Guide

Quick Info

Warranty

  • Limited Warranty period (parts): 1 year
  • Limited Warranty period (labor): 1 year


Customer Reviews of the Ceton 6100-MCX

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  • Frank M.
  • 5/26/2014 9:22:04 AM
  • Tech Level: High
  • Ownership: more than 1 year
  • Verified Owner

3 out of 5 eggsWorks... Not Ideal but.. for Media Center not too bad

Pros: Handles not only TV but most video formats -- including MKV. I don't know what the other reviewer spec'd out; all you need do is download the Win 7 or 8 Video drivers to get all of these formats available on a pass-thru basis. That said, some formats in 1080p won't be viewable. So downsize.

Cons: I bought this for $179. It would be a good value for about $59 IMO (honest or not) but $179 was way over-priced and rather quickly reduced it $100 or so. Story of my life with PCs...

The remote was difficult to work with right from the get-go, until I replaced the batteries. Go figure. Wish they would update the software for the hardware, too.

Sometimes (well about 50% of the time) you need to restart the system to get the signal and video to handshake properly, which is a bit of a pain, but it does work the second time around. All said, it might be less frustrating to just use a cable box.

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  • Scott L.
  • 5/25/2014 8:17:13 AM
  • Tech Level: High
  • Ownership: 1 month to 1 year
  • Verified Owner

5 out of 5 eggsGreat MC Extender

Pros: Super quite (no fan)
Does exactly what it's supposed to do, serve up Windows Media Center
Always on (no startup time)
Great value
Video Quality
Small

Cons: A little bit slower on navigation than xBox 360

Other Thoughts: I have 3 xBox 360s (2 Slims and a previous model) and been using them as Windows Media Center Extenders for 5 years now. But I was tired of the noise of the fans (unit and/or the power supply) and the boot up time as well as the switching apps time.
This does all my extender functions as well as the xBox excepts it's just a tad slower on navigation which is no problem for me.
This allows me to have xBox video apps running (like ESPN, xBox Video, VUDU, Huku, etc.) and switch back and forth to media center via my AVR (like during commercials).
This also frees me up to be able to move to xBox One without losing my Extender which we can't live without. Our use of the xBox's is 60% WMC and 40% everything else.

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  • Kenneth G.
  • 5/7/2014 4:19:01 PM
  • Tech Level: Somewhat High
  • Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
  • Verified Owner

2 out of 5 eggsGood only for TV

Pros: Works OK for TV only as a Media Center Extender
Small/Compact
Low Power Usage

Cons: Painfully slow, like using an old original Atom based computer.
Looooooooong boot up time till live TV is available.......about 40-45 seconds from cold boot.

Very limited media type playback. No mkv, etc.

H264 playback is very choppy. This thing just doesn't have the horsepower.

No Netflix, Hulu, etc.

Sometimes acts very flaky, i.e. random freezes, random recovery mode. Frustrating.

I would have serious concerns about buying another one. In the future, I'd rather just build a cheap Baytrail NUC and at least have a Windows Media Center device that can actually do everything.

Included remote is useless.
Get a Logitech harmony series.

Other Thoughts: Waaaaaay too much money for something that only kind-of works.
This item should be $50 max for the performance you get out of it.

Will not work with Windows 8 Media Center.

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  • Anonymous
  • 4/30/2014 10:02:34 PM
  • Tech Level: High
  • Ownership: more than 1 year
  • Verified Owner

2 out of 5 eggsGreat potential, so little delivered.

Pros: As a TV extender it works well. easy to install. Small. reasonably fast.

Cons: Whether it is Ceton's poor support on their website or the lack of media playback this box is not good. Firmware is buggy and they no longer support it. They initially sold it as something that would run androd as well. That was a lie and false asvertising imo. They dropped that a bit ago. Other than WMC extension this box offers nothing and i mean NOTHING. Spotty video playback of videos that work on the host PC.

Other Thoughts: There is no reason to buy this unless you want the TV function. Add Plex to any other streaming device and add recorded TV to Plex and you don't need this. So much potential and so little delivered. I am completely disappointed. 2 stars only due to live tv working most of the time. I paid twice the amount they are asking now and I would not pay more than half what they are asking today again for this.

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  • David E.
  • 4/7/2014 12:28:51 PM
  • Tech Level: High
  • Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
  • Verified Owner

4 out of 5 eggsNice Little Box

Pros: I read through all of the issues and became worried, but I wanted a better solution then an Xbox in my kitchen because I have 2 months left before my XBG family expires and I end my relationship w/ MSFT. In any case, it took me five minutes to set up the box (update firmware out of the box), and it seemed like I didnt need to add in the Ceton helper app, because it simply works as an extender out of the box. I followed the directions (turn off echo, turn off WMC, install) and it worked. I rebooted the Echo, and the settings came up, I modified a few and on my way. I also turned off transition animations as that caused issues on the Xbox also.

I have kept the Echo on 100% of the time without issue yet, but I also keep my WMC VM up 100% of the time also. The performance is on par or faster than my Xbox.

I have purposely divorced my "media" from my Xbox/Echo and have moved to a Roku solution and PLex for that matter. I put a new Roku streaming stick @ 5GHz and all my media needs are satisfied. Added a Logitech 650 remote ($40 refurb) and it takes care of all my needs.

The Roku and Ceton take about 5W, so I'm not too worried about keeping them going. They are superior solutions.

I have not tried any media viewing outside of WMC (mediaportal,etc) because they never worked correctly and Plex is now my universal solution so the Echo is now my guy.

If they could combine the Echo w/ a Roku now they would have a real winner. In the meantime I can live w/ both and a Refurbed Logitech to switch...

Cons: The remote. I didnt even try to use it, but it definitely goes down as being one of the worst-designed remotes I have ever seen. They should just ship without it and save me $20.

Also a nit but they put a film over the shiny parts and to take it off I nicked it.

Also on/off is slow, so I think that keeping this on all the time is better. A lag of a minute or so, maybe another 20 seconds over an Xbox.

No firmware update in over a year, so that always worries me because people are complaining and not getting fixed. Ceton also hasn't updated their app in a while, so maybe the company is in trouble... However no issues to report from my side yet, and I'm using Windows 7, not trying to hack Win8.

Other Thoughts: Like my SageTV once they got is solid, they sold it. Hopefully they follow through w/ endpoint solutions and not leave them in the lurk, but I know MSFT isn't really developing WMC anymore so this product has a shelf life.

Also the plans to use Linux I hear fumbled due to the wrong choice in Silicon, so Im assuming development for this product rev is dead.

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  • BRETT R.
  • 4/7/2014 9:50:19 AM
  • Tech Level: High
  • Ownership: more than 1 year
  • Verified Owner

3 out of 5 eggsJust Barely "Good Enough"

Pros: * It's not an Xbox 360 (it's small and completely silent).
* It can easily be concealed behind wall-mounted LCD TVs (an Xbox cannot).
* It's energy efficient.
* It works most of the time, on most channels (see cons).

Cons: * It works most of the time, on most channels ... meaning (a) premium movie channels are generally unwatchable (frame rate issues make bad video stutter) and (b) it occasionally crashes on the other channels (not a ton, but maybe once every ten operating hours?).
* Don't count on it playing your video files (poor codec support, at least at bit rates associated with high quality).
* Don't think you can power it via USB cable from the TV.
* The remote is terrible. I replaced it with original Xbox 360 Media Center remotes.
* One of the TVs I have set up with an Echo - an older LG LCD - has some issues with detecting the HDMI signal from its Echo. The TV basically goes into "no signal found" mode, and there's no apparent way around it other than randomly turning on/off both the TV and Echo until they handshake and see each other. I have not seen this with any other HDMI devices with this TV, pointing to at least some sort of compatibility issue the Echo has with older televisions.
* Quality control is not a strong point. Besides the FreeScale (onboard chip) issues, I think they probably went too bottom-of-the-barrel in choosing an overseas manufacturer. Meaning, you may have to RMA (with Ceton).
* All software development (firmware updates) from Ceton has completely stopped. Meaning, the aforementioned issues aren't going to get any better. Ever.

Other Thoughts: I have purchased two of these (both over a year ago) for my own home setup, and now six total for my in-laws' setup (yes, you read that right). Across these eight devices, two have had to be RMA'd (25% failure rate, which seems high).

Since neither of these households (mine or my in-laws') watch premium movie channels, the annoying stutter qualifies for us as "not that big of a deal." If you are a premium movie channel viewer, however, then these devices are not for you.

The gains to me of having a small box mounted to the back of a TV are worth putting up with its performance quirks, in my opinion (as compared to the Xbox 360). I would suggest having a 360 around somewhere else in your setup, too, as it is a more reliable extender overall. Makes troubleshooting a lot easier ("wait, is this messed up on the 360, too?").

Probably my biggest frustration with this whole product is what appears to be the demise of Ceton. They dreamed big (and marketed it to be big), and then played a game of rolling back expectations. I'm sure they learned a lot from this, and won't repeat the same marketing mistakes (big talk) going forward.

I also wish they didn't show up in WMC enthusiast communities (thegreenbutton.tv) - where they've largely been absent since this thing started to show less and less promise - and talk about/post links to their pending legal matters with Gibson (that are totally unrelated to WMC). This is the opposite of operating the business with class.

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  • Jeffrey A.
  • 3/27/2014 6:26:39 PM
  • Tech Level: Average
  • Ownership: 1 month to 1 year
  • Verified Owner

4 out of 5 eggsCeton Echo Update

Pros: Bye Bye cable box/dvr fees

Cons: Well worth the $99 I paid ( I bought three) but would have a hard time with the $179 regular price unless Ceton was updating the firmware.

Other Thoughts: I'm writing this update to make anyone struggling to find a workable remote to replace the terrible Ceton remote. This the model number HP D4000 5189-3685. Its a universal remote with volume mapping. You can also program the power button to turn off/on your TV. Check the brand list, but it works great with my Sony. Now I only need one remote :) I was having trouble with my Sony recognizing the Ceton HDMI input, but I now turn the Ceton on first then the TV. Problem solved.

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  • Jack V.
  • 3/22/2014 10:17:14 AM
  • Tech Level: High
  • Ownership: 1 month to 1 year
  • Verified Owner

3 out of 5 eggsWorks, but not as good as it should

Pros: Very small Windows MCE Extender, much smaller footprint than an XBOX360. Simple setup (updating firmware should be task #1) and powered with a USB cable (ac adapter included) which you can plug into TV if it has a powered USB port.

Cons: Internal CPU isn't quite fast enough to keep up 100% of the time. It works ok on regular channels ,but if you hit a high action HD channel it can lag. I was trying to watch some of the NCAA Tourny on it and it would lag badly. I also cannot stress how much I hate the included remote control. The buttons are way too close together, anyone with fingers bigger than a five year old will really struggle with some of the buttons and mash unwanted buttons. The only good side is that the unit will work with just about any MCE compatible remote, so I replaced it easily enough. Also, the line of sight for the remote to work properly is basically a straight line. If you are off center even a little (up or down), you will need to do some remote waving in the air to make it work at all.

Other Thoughts: All in all, it's not a terrible product, but it could be so much better. A slightly faster CPU and a better remote would really go a long way to making this a much better product.

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  • Clinton G.
  • 3/18/2014 11:30:26 AM
  • Tech Level: Somewhat High
  • Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
  • Verified Owner

4 out of 5 eggsWorks Great After Update

Pros: This thing is small, lightweight and easy to conceal. It does not use a lot of power and most importantly it is quiet. Just make sure to update it first thing and you should be good to go. It does a great job of doing what it is supposed to do which is live tv and recorded tv both work flawlessly. Great buy at $99 not worth $179

Cons: This has to be updated to newest firmware before you start to really use it. The software it ships with is very buggy after the update it works great. The display in media center are just slightly off for tasks menus and such but nothing to terrible. Everything else works great wish it could do .VOB files then this thing would be awesome.

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  • Anonymous
  • 3/16/2014 11:03:02 AM
  • Tech Level: Somewhat High
  • Ownership: 1 month to 1 year
  • Verified Owner

5 out of 5 eggsMuch Improved!

Pros: Has improved considerably from the first month!!! Would recommend to a tech savy friend. Using on a gigabit network. I had stuttering problems with my xbox360 and activated downstream metering on the Ethernet adapter on the WMC PC.

Cons: Remote cannot control Power on TV.

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