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Seagate ST4000NC000 4TB 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Terascale Hard Drive With Instant Secure Erase Bare Drive

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4 out of 5 eggsAbout a month and very impressed.

Pros: I decided to hold off on my review for a few weeks to a month before giving my input. As of today I can say I am quite happy with the drive in terms of quietness and performance it's been showing. I've had the drive in both enclosed and in my rig. Regardless of where you put the drive, performance levels are similar, just be sure the external enclosure is USB 3.0.

I've compared this to my WD Green drives and the sound level's both drives put out are the same, audible to none depending on what you are doing. Any music or gaming will cancel it out. The added security feature may be useful to some, but many will never know it has it. The drive is rated to run at under 8 watts power, which is quite amazing if you are really looking to run these together and want to cut down on electricity bill.

All in all I would recommend the drive to those who want a quite, efficient (this being the bigger pro), and semi high performing drive for back up, though however there are a few things I would have to address as to why it may not be a good buy for some...

The last pro is the 64MB cache and 5900RPM. Very very decent specs for a 4TB drive..

Cons: Size : 4TB can be good, and bad. I read earlier and a reviewer stated that if you do decide to put near 4TB (3.6TB) please consider running another in image (raid) array with this one. I would not know how to re-act if this drive were to fail with 3.6TB of valuable data. Remember that your primary drive is only as reliable as your back up, so think twice before you start to dump everything onto a "bigger" drive. Data recovery is not cheap either and I myself had to walk down this road once.

Price : The price is a tad high, I understand the lower wattage use and the security feature that is added onto the drive. Storage has always been the area on the market where consumers try to get the best bargain. There are other drives with similar specs/size at a more affordable cost. To each there own, some may find this to be a better drive for certain reasons such as the pros talked about earlier.

Regardless of the pricing on the drive, I don't think anyone would be dis-appointed with it. For the month that I have had it I have to admit I do enjoy having more space and file transfers are a bit faster than my old 5400RPM 2TB.

Warranty : Only 1 year warranty on this guy. I wish the warranty would be a bit longer since it is a bigger capacity drive. 2-3 years would have been a plus in my book, though this wasn't enough to deduct an egg.

Other Thoughts: Everything needed to be said are within the pro/con section.

The drive will stick out to some, but most will simply hit the back button. To buy or not to buy is really up to what you plan on doing with the drive.

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5 out of 5 eggsAnother High Quality Seagate HDD

Pros: I've been testing the 4Tb ST4000NC000 for a month on a test Windows 8.1 install.The Hard drive does make some spin up noise,then runs quiet while in read/write or idle modes.I honest can not tell the difference in speed between this 5900rpm drive and a newer 7200rpm.My write speeds are in the 110 to 120 range iam more than happy with that espeically since this uses very little power to spin its 4 platters.It is heavy but has a casing that would make a tank proud.And i sure notice the space ! Over 3.7gb after format.Love the secure erase feature(more about this in other thoughts)I also found no cons but it is a field i have to fill in.

Cons: The hard drive had very minimal packing..I guess it could be referred to as Green Packaging.While this might be ok for a lightweight slim or laptop drive.This is 1 heavy Hard Disk.

Other Thoughts: Since i installed the Windows 8.1 preview,which went without a hitch..This was the perfect way to test the Instant Secure Erase.Download Seatools from seagates site,you must run Seatools-Advanced menu to find the instant erase menu but you also must pull the drive out of the system and hook up a sata to usb cable this is because you cant erase the c drive you just pull it then erase it via sata/usb cable.Since the drive is already removed just type in the security code shown on the lable and in minute or so it was bye bye Windows 8. I feel it would erase even faster using a sata to sata cable.Now it is ready for NTFS format and Windows 7..Great Drive am as pleased with this as i am my Seagate momentus XT in my laptop.

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5 out of 5 eggsIt's not Large, it's Huge

Pros: Extremely quiet
Gives off very little heat
Energy efficient
4TB

Cons: Expensive (but does have extra encryption/secure erase feature)
5900RPM

Other Thoughts: Perfect for archived storage as the 5900RPM is not the fastest though admittedly the overall throughput seemed perfectly adequate. So, yes, a fine large HDD for a NAS array. Photographers and video editors should be ecstatic. Recording of surveillance systems, etc, you get the idea.

I transferred some files and programs from one computer to another using this drive in sneaker net mode and had no issues with the data.

And security concerns are eased with the self encryption/decryption built in. I do however, wish Seagate would guarantee their enterprise drives for 5 years.

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5 out of 5 eggsVery nice drice

Pros: The thing that really caught my attention was the ability to eradicate all data on it in mere seconds. All data being written to the drive is encrypted and decrypted on the fly, and to delete everything, you just make it unreadable. I find this brilliant since doing a DOD grade scrub of a drive this size can take 2 solid days (7 passes, ~3800GB and 157MB/s).

Other things that make this drive a great choice:
* Drive does not get very hot.
* 3725.7 GB usable disk space (GPT style with NTFS)
* Fast throughput. Gets 157 MB/s transfer rate
* Supports low power modes. (idle_a, idle_b, idle_c, standby, and sleep) (these modes are automatic or can be set through EPC)
* Product manual has very extensive information about the drive and its low level features.
* Manual says it can handle 300,000 load/unload cycles
* The instant secure erase requires a 32-character alpha numeric string to erase the drive. This prevents malicious attacks from wiping your drive for you. And a power cycle of the drive is required for every 3 failed attempts to erase the drive.
* It's a hard drive, it stores data

Cons: One of my biggest concerns is that as drives get bigger, so does the amount of data loss in case of failure and lack of redundancy. Don't keep all your eggs in one basket and duplicate all important data. If this drive fails, you can't send it in to have the data recovered off the platters because the data is encrypted. Seagate may have some magic they can work to recover it, but recognize it will be very difficult if even possible. See other thoughts for more on this.

The only other drawback of this drive I can find, is the price. It is fairly expensive, but if your application needs it, it needs it.

Other Thoughts: More information on the encryption taken from the Constellation CS Data Sheet:
"Encrypting drives use one inline encryption engine for each port, employing AES-256 data encryption in Cipher Block Chaining (CBC) mode to encrypt all data prior to being written on the media and to decrypt all data as it is read from the media. The encryption engines are always in operation, cannot be disabled, and do not detract in any way from the performance of the drive.

"The 32-byte Data Encryption Key (DEK) is a random number which is generated by the drive, never leaves the drive, and is inaccessible to the host system. The DEK is itself encrypted when it is stored on the media and when it is in volatile temporary storage (DRAM) external to the encryption engine. A unique data encryption key is used for each of the drive's possible 16 data bands"

So it seems the Encryption keys are stored on the platters of the drive. It doesn't say it specifically in the excerpt above, but when you tell the drive to change the key, there is disk activity. So if you fry the drive, Seagate may have the ability to read the encrypted encryption keys from the drive and rescue your data.

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5 out of 5 eggsGreat drive!

Pros: +4TB!
This is the largest drive I have owned so far. But its really nice not having to worry about filling up all the space. Its also great for anyone who has a limited number of SATA ports left to use and need space.

+5900rpm
Yes its a lower rpm than 7200, but it still gets very good speed in my opinion. I have older 7200rpm drives that don't get the speeds this drive gets in benchmarks. I would think the lower rpm may give it a longer lifespan also.

+Low power with its rated 4.3w
It may not seem like a lot, but every few watts saved adds up for people who have a lot of hardware connected to their desktop.

+Quiet
The drive seems very quiet to me, I haven't heard any noises coming from it, even when I tried it in my external USB 3.0 dock.

+Encrypted drive
I do not know why more drives are not like this. The entire drive is encrypted by the drives hardware which makes it a ton easier to securely wipe/delete the files when it comes time to sell the drive, or if you threw it out. It also also so much faster than using unreliable software to overwrite files on a regular drive... especially on a drive this size.

I have older drives that I don't sell and am afraid to throw out for that very reason. There are documents on their website about how to Secure Erase the drive using a utility also found on their website.

Cons: -Expensive

Other Thoughts: My Desktop Computer:
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V
CPU: Intel i5-3570K

ATTO: WRITE/READ

0.5 18769 19231
1.0 35239 34133
2.0 63172 67284
4.0 95542 120776
8.0 133218 149110
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32 151593 150601
64 150601 152847
128 150777 154975
256 149348 154847
512 151658 129678
1024 148034 153391
2048 150806 152809
4096 151373 152809
8192 149963 152809


HDTUNE

Minimum: 78.2MB/s
Maximum: 166.5MB/s
Average: 135.7MB/s
Access time: 16.1ms
Burst Rate: 192.8MB/s

I am VERY happy with this drive so far. Only time will tell how long it lasts, but I feel more secure with the 5900rpm on a drive this size. It has everything I want in a drive, like the encryption which doesn't seem to slow anything down from what I have seen. I can only assume its more durable/reliable than the cheaper alternatives due to its price and listed features.

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4 out of 5 eggsSeagate ST4000NC000

Pros: I have had a chance to put this hard drive through some basic file moving situations... First I took it to work (I work for a wireless internet service provider) and we do everything in house including our storage servers. I backed everything up from my storage server (about 250GB worth) at work and brought it home and hook it up in my personal home server. Everything transferred with out a hitch and with a reasonable transfer rate(around 150mbs). I wasn't expecting super high performance out of this "storage" drive since it does have low RPM and isn't really built for a fast boot drive but it really did surprise me a bit. I have basically used this hard drive as a normal user would and haven't put it through any benchmarks since that really isn't it's main purpose. As a storage drive I can say it works as expected and I am sure a few of these in a RAID configuration they would store your data just fine. I think Seagate is making a come back after some bad reviews I have seen in the last year or so. I will continue to trust my data and movie files on this till it proves me wrong :)

Cons: Price tag is a little steep IMO...but you do get some extras so it's your call

Other Thoughts: Decent performance with a decent warrentee with a little steep price tag

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5 out of 5 eggsserver grade for a consumer price

Pros: This is a server grade drive at a consumer friendly price.
- Large capacity. pretty much the largest capacity single drive you can currently buy,
- very quiet. Unlike my other drive i can't hear this drive, even while it is under load.
- Low power draw
- high quality construction designed to run 24/7.
- Fast.
- Secure. The Instant Secure Erase renders the drive safe from most thieves.

Cons: - Bare drive. this drive has no cables, hardware, or documentation bundled with it. This means it is up to you to acquire everything including the software needed to use the Instant Secure Erase. Luckily there is documentation at the bottom of the overview tab on the product page that will tell you everything you need to know.
- 5900 rpms. With other manufacturers drives running between 7200-10k you can't but wonder if the drive would be even faster if they made theirs faster.
- Security. This is an encryption drive. As data is written to and read from the drive, the drive encrypts and decrypts the data.When you perform an Instant Secure Erase, the drive erases the current encryption key and creates a new one. It leaves the data on the drive and renders is "invisible" waiting for it to be overwritten by new data. This means that even after a Instant Secure Erase the data previously on the drive could theoretically be retrieved.

Other Thoughts: Even though the data is theoretically retrievable it would be very difficult. Even if a thieve finds the data they are going to have to decrypt it to be able to get anything out of it.

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5 out of 5 eggscool operator

Pros: I've used many hard drives over the years, and the need for capacity, reliability and sufficient speed never ends. In the past you would sacrifice quiet and cool operation and reliability against seek speed, sustained throughput and heat output. The old 10k Raptor was notorious for this and literally sounded like a velociraptor taking flight. Remember IBM's deathstar?

I compared this drive to a one year old 2tb 'green' Western Digital drive. Physically, the 4tb Seagate Terascale drive is suprisingly much lighter than the WD, runs much cooler and runs with less of a 'growl'. This is truly a green drive for the enviormentally conscious users, needing less than 5 watts.

I ran HD TUNE Pro to get some performance numbers. Random seek time is 15.2ms compared the hybrid seagate's 9.55. An external usb drive gave me a random seek time of 17.88. Burst rate of the terascale was 3087 IOPS when transferring 192mb/s.

Comparing this to my hybrid 500gb Seagate boot drive, it runs just as as cool but is beaten in performance by the 7200rpm spindle speed, yet only runs slightly louder.

Using this drive in your home surveillance system would give you remarkable recording duration at higher settings, and using this in your dvr would put the thought of running out of capacity from the forefront to the backend of worries.

This is a great drive to start or scale up your NAS array, edit new format gigantic 3D video files or just backup the heck out of your accumulated media and all the computers in your household.

I have no qualms running this drive using constant cloning and instant backups in the background. The head runs more efficiently leading to better reliability than my green 2tb seagate drive's whose reliability has been questioned by other users.

Even if the drive dies, seagate offers a $99 application for recovery and/or rescue.

This a dream drive dealing high end applications and home media server needs, all wrapped up in quiet and cool footprint.

The upfront cost may first make you take a double take before you click confirm order, but the price per megabyte is less than a dollar. Think about shooting HD photos and videos, editing and archiving without having to free up space for YEARS and with peace of mind.

Cons: none.

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5 out of 5 eggsMonster 4TB!

Pros: - Monster 4TB of storage!
- Sturdy construction
- 3 year warranty
- Comes with instant secure erase (ISE), which is a fancy way of saying that it you can erase everything on the hard drive easy and fast. View this link to get further information: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MiNq4GUpsE. I know that it usually takes a long time to erase everything on hard drives using 3rd party disk wiping programs.

Instead of using it in a PC, I had the NetGear ReadyNAS 102 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822122132) on my network so I thought I'd replace one of the drives to see if I could expand on the storage. In fact it did! The only issue: it took overnight for the NetGear ReadyNAS 102 to format, or whatever it was doing, to the drive. Afterwards, I had 3.6TB one one hard drive and an additional 1.8TB on the other for a total of 5.4TB in RAID 1 configuration. I'll eventually get another 4TB so that it's mirrored but that will be later.

Although it states 5400RPM, I can't tell a difference with reading and writing to the hard drive or to the NetGear ReadyNAS 102 at all. Speeds are still the same.

Cons: Only got 3.6TB after successfully formatting it. Why can't we ever get the full 4TB? I know it's in the math and the limitations of the disks...but I'm just saying..

Other Thoughts: 4TB (3.6TB for me) of hard drive space all built within a single hard drive is awesome! I've been waiting and waiting and here it is. There's no noise coming from it and it's a bit heavy meaning only that it'w built with quality materials and construction. In addition, it's manufactured by Seagate. I've never had a problem with my Seagate hard drives. I still have my 40GB Seagate IDE hard drive inside an enclosed case that I keep my MP3's on. It's still works great with no problems.

I've been transferring, deleting files and even streaming MP3's and video files from the NetGear ReadyNAS 102 for over 2 weeks now and I am amazed. Not a single hiccup or slow down yet.

I would highly recommend this product if you're looking for additional storage space without wanting to purchase multiple drives to get 4TB of hard drive space. Whether you can afford it (curently $299 at the time of this writing) is a whole different story.

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4 out of 5 eggsGood product for the right user

Pros: - minimalist packaging (bare drive) but packed safely enough, without added waste (for those that care about that sort of thing)
- detected immediately within disc management on a machine running Windows 8.1 64-bit
- running current firmware out of the box
- runs just slightly warm to the touch in an open air situation (no fan blowing over it)
- formats to usable disc space within 10 seconds on a SATA III port
- Seagate site is easy enough to navigate, especially their download section
- overall disc usage (reads, writes, access times) benched slower than both 7200 RPM 2TB 64MB cache drives I put it up against, but DID NOT feel slow in actual usage (loading levels in games, file access times, disc writes)
- copying my 24GB Battlefield 4 program folder from a GSKill Pyro 120GB SSD averaged 191MB/s -- not at all shabby for a big platter drive that runs at 5900 RPM
- Crypto erase on 100GB of data took less than 10 seconds (SATA to SATA); rebooted PC; drive needed to be initialized/formatted, just as advertised
- 3-year warranty
- Seagate RMA process is reasonably fast, and painless (prior experience)

Cons: - formats to 3725.90 GB (not really a con, just a fact that tends to disappoint most people)
- Seatools software download gives you an "incompatible with Windows 8" warning, but installs/runs fine (ended up using 12010-RC, and worked perfectly, with no warnings)
- ISE erase feature requires the input of the 32-digit PSID. The font on the HD is very small and tough to read for folks with 45 year-old eyes like mine. Suggest you take a picture of it with a smart phone if you're close-up vision challenged
- Seatools short test was pretty noisy when running a system with quiet fans, as well as displaying a lot of unit vibration (con for those seeking silence)
- too expensive vs comparably sized Seagate counterparts, for the average user to consider it a worthwhile purchase
- cost per GB is very high to other 4TB drives out there

Other Thoughts: Been a while since I paid much attention to a non SSD hard drive. We run all SSD on every machine in our house, with the only machine using any platter drives, being our home file server (runs a 4TB RAID 5 array), so I figured the only real positive in this review would fall back on the cost per GB factor -- but not so. This is a good performing drive for the right user.

All of my tests were run with CrystalDiscMark and HD Tune Pro 5.50. They were done on a SATA III interface, as I was running a 480GB SSD RAID 0 stripe on the pair of SATA 6GB ports, on the particular benching system I was using. Here are some numbers:

CrystalDiscMark:

- sequential test (1000 MB size) = 155.9 MB/s read / 153.4 MB/s write (SATA III)
- sequential test (50 MB size) = 157.8 MB/s read / 137.5 MB/s write (SATA III)
- sequential test (4000 MB size) = 155.7 MB/s read / 153.8 MB/s write (SATA III)

HD Tune Pro 5.50 delivered similar numbers. While slower than a smaller 2TB 7200 RPM drive, the Seagate didn't feel slow in anything that it was asked to do. When capacity is this large, the tradeoff will always be speed, and the Seagate held up well. Consider that a lot of users will have this drive on a SATA 6GB interface -- and those numbers will be even better.

The Crypto erase process was really easy, working exactly as advertised. Truth be told, it was pretty cool to see 100GB of data go bye-bye in just a few seconds, and feeling confident that it would take the blackest of Black Hats to recover anything from the drive.

Now on to the biggest issue with this drive -- PRICE.

This drive is $100 more than a comparably performing hard drive (capacity/speed/cache size). The only differences being the secure erase features, and the added year to the warranty (the average 4TB drive across all brands carries a 2-year warranty). Your average user eyeing this as a large capacity home file server solution, would most likely run a RAID 1 for redundancy -- that's $600 (current price) for 4TB of space. I just don't see the secure erase feature being worth that extra cost, when that same user could spend $200 less for the same performance. I know that I would not buy two of these drives for that scenario -- just too expensive.

In my opinion, the ST4000N is much better suited as a large capacity temporary storage solution. The ability to easily, securely wipe your data, can be a priceless feature for the right user situation. Even taking that into account, I would find it hard to believe that discerning of a user would not be running some kind of backup situation. Because of the cost involved, you would be looking at a very narrow market wanting to purchase this drive.

So overall, the ST4000N performs as advertised, packs a decent warranty, and has a nice feature set. Does the greatly increased cost justify that feature set? Not for me, it doesn't, but for the right user, maybe. You are definitely getting what you are paying for -- but it will

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