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Kangaroo Plus Mobile Mini PC, Intel Atom x5 Z8500, 4GB LPDDR3, 64GB eMMC, Finger Print Reader, Non OS, Windows 10 compatible

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  • Intel Atom x5 z8500 Processor
  • 4GB LPDDR3 Memory 64GB eMMC storage
  • Kangaroo Dock included
  • Finger Print Reader
  • Non OS version (Windows 10 Compatible)

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Learn more about the Kangaroo KJ2B#004-NA

General

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Brand
Kangaroo
Model
KJ2B#004-NA
Color
Black

CPU Supported

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CPU Type
Intel Atom x5-Z8500 Processor (2M Cache, up to 2.24 GHz)

Memory Supported

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Memory installed
4GB
Memory Type Supported
LPDDR3 1600
Max Memory Supported
4GB

Storage

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Hard Drive Installed
64GB eMMC

Graphics

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Onboard Video
Intel Processor Graphics Gen8

Audio

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Onboard Audio
Available via Bluetooth, USB, or HDMI output only

Communications

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Wireless LAN
Wi-Fi 802.11 A/C (Dual Band)
Bluetooth
Bluetooth 4.0

Front Panel Ports

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Front USB
1 x Micro-USB 2.0 (Side, charge only)
Card Reader
3-in-1 card reader (MicroSDSC/MicroSDHC/MicroSDXC)
Other Front Ports
1 x Fingerprint reader

Back Panel Ports

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HDMI
1 x HDMI (via included dock)
Rear USB
1 x USB 3.0 (via included dock)
1 x USB 2.0 (via included dock)
Other Rear Ports
1 x DC-IN (via included dock)
1 x Dock connector

Power Supply

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Power Supply
Power Adapter:
Input: 100V-220V~1A, 50-60Hz
Output: 12V/3A

Battery: Lithium-ion 81WHr
Battery Life: up to 4 hours (casual use)

Physical SPEC

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Dimensions
Computing module: 0.51" x 4.88" x 3.17"
Base: 0.51" x 1.85" x 3.17"
Weight
0.44 lb. (without adapter & power cord)
1.04 lbs. (including adapter & power cord)
Warranty, Returns, And Additional Information
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  • Limited Warranty period (parts): 1 year
  • Limited Warranty period (labor): 1 year
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  • syed a.
  • 5/23/2016 5:13:23 PM
  • Ownership: 1 month to 1 year
  • Verified Owner

4 out of 5 eggsNice concept

Pros: Small, low power, New concept, support do reply to questions, 4 gb ram, 64 gig Nand flash, windows drivers.

Cons: No LAN Port "this need to be a must built-in", No Linux support for the moment, no DVI or VGA port not much performance on windows 10 and can not run windows 7.

Other Thoughts: This is a fun toy and can be used as a full time usable system, Main problem is the lack of development from Intel or OEM they just can't get the full power out of it without right drivers "API's"
Once full drivers support is ready this thing will shine in a Linux environment.I have noticed huge difference in performance when using Ubuntu over windows 10.

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  • Jason W.
  • 5/4/2016 9:52:50 AM
  • Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
  • Verified Owner

4 out of 5 eggsGreat Cost & Size, but not for everyone

Pros: - Cost
- Size
- Battery

Cons: - Low on Resources
- Only compatible with Windows 10. Works with Windows 8.1, but the drivers offered do not work
- Runs very hot

Other Thoughts: I love this machine. It's small, easy to move around, and doesn't take up a lot of space. I'll admit that if you're not computer savvy, getting the Kangaroo without the OS can be a bit tricky. After buying the OS, you'll need to create a boot usb drive to get started. Up and running, audio driver didn't work along with a few other drivers. Went to the website, transferred the drivers, all good now.

Runs very hot, noticed that when I moved it around and I'm sure that can slow performance. When I had Windows 8.1 running before upgrading the OS to Windows 10, it ran like a DREAM. It was FAST, and I mean REALLY fast. When I went to Windows 10, updated the drivers, it was laggy and slow to a point. I disabled a lot of Windows 10 features to help it down the road, and it helped.... some.

In the end, I think it's a great product with lots of potential. I don't think it should only work with Windows 10. Not everyone is a Windows 10 fan, so linux IS an option (despite what others tell you). I'm not a fan of linux, but it's an alternative. If you need a PC for basic web browsing, or possibly MS Office work, this PC is for you. Even for kids, this'll work great.

I do recommend buying it, if you're savvy with the OS installation and have some patience. I think Kangaroo should invest in other docks to accommodate other connections. Also, make sure to store in a cool place. Even putting a fan on it wouldn't hurt. Buy a little $10 fan that's small and point it directly at it. If this worked with 8.1, it would be a hot item.

Manufacturer Response:

Hello Jason,

Thank you for the good rating on our new products. Windows 10, Linux, and Ubuntu are compatible with the Kangaroo as well. It does run hot as it does not have a self cooling fan. We are hoping for this issue to be resolved in future models.

Thank you,
Sarah R., InFocus Customer Support

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  • SANTOS H.
  • 4/30/2016 10:17:32 PM
  • Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
  • Verified Owner

4 out of 5 eggsGreat Product for the for the (Tech Savvy)

Pros: As a Biomed/I.T. Technician I was looking for a product like this to come along, thanks InFocus. Now let's get to Brass tacks, Win10 Pro easy to install and get up and running WO/issue have your drivers ready. Tested W/HDMI on monitor w/built in audio no issue works & sounds good next on HDTV also works fine with tv audio and vizio sound bar. But thats not why I got this, I got this to work smarter not harder. In booth the Lab and Office space is at a premium most all lab equipment is networked and my job is to see things move along so I got some velcro, monitor, BT Keyboard w/mouse and stuck the Kangaroo to the back of monitor and log in to our AP and things started working. Most played nice but some things prefer good old hard wire. Boy could I use the (Pro-Dock) right about now, that was the only thing missing. If you pair the (Kangaroo Plus) with the (Pro-Dock) that's some Mad Science. That would also get 5 out of 5 Eggs. Because I read about audio issues I also install ubuntu, the secret there is (update) after the updates it worked fine and fast. The Non OS version isn't for everyone, that said most people know someone who knows someone that is. So have a Tech Savvy person help. This Kangaroo Plus will serve most your needs well. I should also mention this would be Great for kids, schools, power point meetings etc and as for Security it's easy to secure and lock down InFocus got us covered there too, good thing cause it's no bigger than a cell phone and you would Not want to use a less then secure OS on this tiny computer that fits easy in your pocket. I would recommend the new ubuntu 16 LTS or Win 10.
The new Kangaroo Plus Mobile Mini PC is a Great buy and will serve well the majority of people. If your a (Gamer or Video editor) Keep moving this is not for you. I would totally recommend this for everyone else.

Cons: No Pro-Dock, (Yet) Please sell the Pro-Dock soon!
Feel free to comment when :)

Other Thoughts: This has the potential to be a Great tool for all technicians in the industry. We just need a Pro-Dock to toss in the bag.
I'm just saying :) please soon I have test waiting for it.

Manufacturer Response:

Hello Santos,

Thank you for being a positive customer and I am glad to hear it is working for your needs.
We are hoping the pro dock will become available for separate purchase in the next few weeks.

Thank you,
Sarah R., InFocus Customer Support

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  • Clark C.
  • 4/27/2016 10:10:37 AM
  • Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
  • Verified Owner

4 out of 5 eggsNo Auto Power on after power loss feature in the BIOS

Pros: Definitely faster than the Intel Compute sticks. Nice that it has 4 GB of ram and 64 GB of storage.

Cons: No Auto Power on after power loss feature in the BIOS. I understand it has a battery but the cheap $100 Intel Compute sticks have this basic feature. Also didn't see USB stick to load windows, have used this same stick many times on Vensmile and Intel sticks with no issues. Had to use USB optical drive. We would maybe buy 100's of these for digital signage but without a auto power on feature it's a no go. Is also larger than expected and don't understand the detachable power/HDMI/USB thing.

Other Thoughts: Should be ok for Home use but you need to supply the O/S. Will load a 30 day trial with no issues.

Manufacturer Response:

Hello Clark,

I agree, the auto power should be a feature. I will pass it along to our engineers. Thank you for being a great customer!

Sarah R., InFocus Customer Support

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  • Gordon H.
  • 4/24/2016 12:05:45 PM
  • Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
  • Verified Owner

2 out of 5 eggsInnovative Design.

Pros: - Nice design, being nice and small, and easy to carry around like a cell phone.
- Using it w/an iPad worked.
- Windows 10 was easy to install using a USB memory stick.

Cons: - Heat is a BIG problem. With temperatures of around 65 Celsius, at idle, to as high as 83, using IE. The Throttling shouldn't have kicked in until 90 Celsius.
- There was a great deal of Throttling, up and down, almost like a sine wave, using the Windows CPU Resource Monitor.
- The case got extremely warm.
. Using IE, the temperatures would go up, causing lag.
- I couldn't get any movie to play.
- I tried playing an old game, and while it loaded up OK, and the graphics worked, the Throttling kicked in causing lag to happen in the game.
- I tried laying the Kangaroo on a Laptop Pad w/a Cooling Fan, and it indeed cooled it a lot, and as such, the Throttling did drop, but it still kicked in.


Other Thoughts: - If the heat issue could be addressed, and thus stop the Throttling problem. you would have a great product.
- I don't know if there is an issue w/mine of not enough Thermal Compound. I didn't want to open it up and find out. Or there being a bad heat sink design, not enough air circulation, or both.
- I looked a round for pictures of the inside of the Kangaroo, but couldn't find any.

Manufacturer Response:

Gordon,

We are aware of this heating issue and we apologize for the inconvenience. We have recommended to our customers to have a fan blowing over it or placing it on a cooling pad. Our engineers are working on this issue.There is no fan built into the device which causes this issue. Hopefully you enjoy your product other than that issue!

Thank you,
Sarah R., InFocus Customer Support

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  • Robert B.
  • 4/22/2016 10:47:58 AM
  • Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
  • Verified Owner

1 out of 5 eggsVery dissapointed in my purchase

Pros: is an interesting concept

Cons: I based my purchase decision based upon the information given on the product page, unfortunately with respect to what OS you are able to install it is very misleading and incomplete. In the main page heading it states that this is a NON OS version of the Kangaroo and then it states (Windows 10 Compatible) When I see a product that says that it is Windows 10 compatible I assume that in the absence of any other information that it will work with other OS's and you can use Windows 10 if you want. I received my Kangaroo Plus yesterday afternoon and after wasting several hours trying to get Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit that I still had a valid license for to install on this device. When the Windows 7 loader is beginning it initially loads the Windows files and then when the screen comes up stating that Windows is starting it is halted in its tracks and a big Red Bar is at the top of the screen. Unfortunately it appears that InFocus has this device locked down so that the only version of Windows that can be installed is Windows 10. I personally do not like Windows 10 for a lot of reasons and I be D@$%ed if I will spend 100 bucks on buying it! It was this issue that made the novelty of this interesting concept to quickly wear off.

Other Thoughts: I talked with InFocus support this morning and they claimed that the problem is with the bios not having a comparability mode and that is why Windows 7 will not load on it. That may be the problem but I doubt it, after poking around in the UEIF bios of the Kangaroo I discovered that they installed a TPM (trusted platform module) v2 chip on the motherboard. In my opinion this is the device that they are using to lock down the PC so that you can only use Windows 10. Perhaps it is both the bios as well as the TPM chip but regardless they are design choices that InFocus has made. The thing that I find amazing is that they would sell a PC that is clearly stated to be a non OS version and then limit the end user to what version of Windows that they can use. They made this choice and I have made mine. I have decided to vote with my wallet and I just got off of the phone with NewEgg and they have issued an RMA for a refund based upon the reasons here in this post, they also are emailing me a prepaid mailing label to return the Kangaroo back to NewEgg.

Manufacturer Response:

Terribly sorry to hear about your experience with Kangaroo, and will definitely see what we can do to provide more compatibility detail among our product marketing content. The support staff were correct in that the Kangaroo UFEI isn't coded for legacy support, but the presence of the TPM is honestly just for security purposes.. that said, I can see how some of the decisions we made along the way with this platform might lead you to the conclusion that there's something fishy going on (e.g., why would we need a TPM on a Windows 10 Home Edition or NO-OS sku), so please allow me to clarify. The original Kangaroo platform was qualified under Windows 10 Professional Edition, and in obtaining certification for the this edition certain hardware requirements had to be met, among them being the presence of TPM hardware. However, prior to launch certain decisions were made to target the $99 price point and limit the complexity of our supply chain (which included reducing the number of possible PCA configurations), so the decision was to ship with Windows 10 Home Edition (lower licence cost) and the NO-OS sku's but to leave the TPM in the event customers choose to install an OS (e.g.,Windows 8.1 or one of the forthcoming distributions of Ubuntu) that make use of the module for encryption purposes. Again, very sorry for the trouble and will work with our team to make changes to product documentation.

Carl Giardina
Product Development Core Team

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  • Anonymous
  • 3/14/2016 12:09:19 PM
  • Ownership: 1 month to 1 year
  • Verified Owner

4 out of 5 eggsVery Innovative! Low Power Usage, HTPC Solution.

Pros: Small, fits in your Pocket (about the Size of a Large Cell Phone)
Quite, Unit is fan less and makes no noise
Detachable port makes it very portable
Ample CPU and Storage in this unit

Cons: Audio Over HDMI Does not work with Windows 10 pro installed. I currently have it paired via Bluetooth to a TV sound bar

Other Thoughts: Some might find the lack of connection options frustrating (1 USB 2.0, 1 USB 3.0, and 1 HDMI port, bluetooth and WiFi) I currently have an mini Bluetooth Keyboard mouse Combo, USB to ethernet Cable, and 32 GB Thumb-drive (For media expansion) plugged in. I have not used this for games but soon hope to connect it to liquidsky for additional gaming capabilities (waiting for Beta Invite).

Manufacturer Response:

Hello,

I am glad you are enjoying the Kangaroo overall. I don't see why the audio will not work if your monitor or TV has speakers. Have you tried other sources? We are hoping for more dock options in the future. If you ever have any other questions, feel free to call us at 877-388-8360.

Thank you for your business,
Sarah R., InFocus Customer Support

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  • Anonymous
  • 3/9/2016 7:54:51 PM
  • Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
  • Verified Owner

4 out of 5 eggsInstalling Windows 10 Home was easy using USB flash drive. Booting is fast. Storage is sufficient to install Windows and Office applications. I use it mainly to connect to work remote desktop and it's

Pros: Small size, great price, fast booting

Cons: Limited connectivity: I have a webcam, 2 printers and 1 portable hard disk but manageable with a USB hub

Manufacturer Response:

Hello,

I am glad you are pleased with the device overall. I know the ports are limited and are happy you are able to manage with a USB hub.

Thank you for being an excellent customer,
Sarah R., InFocus Customer Support

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  • Anonymous
  • 2/27/2016 12:25:48 AM
  • Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
  • Verified Owner

5 out of 5 eggsGreat device. Free Windows?

Pros: Works well in Windows 10 after all the drivers are loaded. Works well with Ubuntu 15.10 and 16.04, except for the missing sound drivers, but that will come with time. Fingerprint reader is really fast in Windows 10. Just a quick press is all it takes to log in. The built-in battery is a nice touch, seems to have decent battery life. Been on battery for almost an hour and still have 92% remaining. 4GB ram and 64GB emmc. Runs everything so much better than devices with only 2GB ram, and 64GB is plenty of disk space to actually install stuff, unlike other devices where Windows takes up most of the 32GB. LED indicator light changes colors and is nice to look at.

Cons: USB and HDMI ports are close together. Power adapter has to snap into place. UEFI bios with no option to switch to legacy mode, so OS choices are limited unless you want to put in some extra effort.

Other Thoughts: Did several installs/reinstalls of Ubuntu 15.10, 16.04, and Windows 10 just for giggles. I used the Windows 10 media creation tool to make an install cd. I'd say I've installed Windows 10 on this kangaroo about 3 times now and the last install activated itself. Not complaining, but didn't expect to get Windows 10 for free. Makes this a really awesome deal.

Manufacturer Response:

Hello,

I am so thrilled to hear you are having very minimal issues and are enjoying the product overall. Feel free to email or call the support if you ever have any questions.

Thank you for being an awesome customer,
Sarah R., InFocus Customer Support

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  • Anonymous
  • 2/22/2016 11:35:22 AM
  • Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
  • Verified Owner

4 out of 5 eggsNot for your average User, but fun

Pros: Built in Battery
Small Form Factor
More Ram
Currently works with Ubuntu 15.10
Want more!

Cons: No legacy boot support means UEFI Only (lots of headaches figuring this one out and can't install distros that dont support UEFI
Not for the faint of heart or newbie linux user
Audio support might not work for those who care

Other Thoughts: I was told about this from a co-worker who is using the 2GB version to build out a swarm. I grabbed one and attempted to install linux on it. I was only able to install Ubuntu 15.10 who had support for the new Intel Atom chipset (Arch linux for instance, couldn't read the on board MMC and I wasn't about to install Arch to the microSD card slot and boot from there).

Linux Distros I tried (and failed to varying degrees)
Alpine Linux
Arch Linux
Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
Vmware VSphere
Xen based kernels (no UEFI support on Xen means you need a custom kernel to make it UEFI aware)


Important notes:
- Can install linux, but due to the modern Intel Atom chipset, stick to Ubuntu 15.10 for now
- I haven't tried audio, I actually got some driver errors for the snd card and disabled the kernel driver (I'm using this as a server)
- UEFI boot only makes your life miserable when trying to install linux distros that haven't specifically built in UEFI support
- Disable Secure Boot in the bios and make sure your boot media (usb stick or microSD) has a distro installed in UEFI format and supports UEFI booting (Rufus can help with this)
- Works with a USB 3.0 Gigabit ethernet adapter based on the ax88179 chipset. Drivers for this are included more recent linux kernels (3.18 and up I believe. I might have had some problems with one of the usb adapters, but trying another one I had on hand worked fine.

If Infocus made a bios update to allow legacy I'd happily update my bios and install what I want on it.
Looking forward to getting more of these.

(Yes I'm trying to virtualize on top of these, I'm a mad scientist)

Manufacturer Response:

Hello,

I am glad you are having fun being a mad scientist with the Kangaroo! A few customers have requested a BIOS update so hopefully we will make one soon. I am glad you are pleased with our product and thank you for being a great customer.

Thank you,
Sarah R., InFocus Customer Support

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