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Odd Job Tech
Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
This user purchased this item from Newegg
1/26/2008 12:35:05 PM

Rating + 5 Great Processor, Great Price


Pros: Very affordable dual-core processor. Perfect for home/office user interested in running multiple applications.

Cons: None.

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sny66
Tech Level: average
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
This user purchased this item from Newegg
1/24/2008 10:01:11 PM

Rating + 5 Nice CPU


Pros: Cheap dual core cpu that runs cool! AMD has some nice utilities on their website,check them out.Heatsink easy to install,no more using screw drivers!

Cons: None

Other Thoughts: Stock HS & Fan works just fine on it's own,no upgrading needed.

800 mhz memory will only run at 700 something mhz with this cpu.

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ephemeriis
Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
This user purchased this item from Newegg
1/21/2008 3:14:58 PM

Rating + 4 very nice


Pros: Very nice CPU. Quick. Easy installation with no trouble at all.

Cons: None so far.

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N/A
Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
This user purchased this item from Newegg
1/19/2008 11:29:13 AM

Rating + 5 Go job AMD


Pros: Great cpu for under 90$ bucks you get a 2.5ghz dual core processor. Great performens and a desent heatsink and fan the fan is a 4 pin but will work with a normal 3 pin plug on the motherboard. For any one building a new computer or for any one wanting to get more power and can't aford the new quad cores I highly recommend this cpu with out any hesitation. NEWEGG RULES!!!

Cons: the stock heatsink and fan is not the best but adiquite.

Other Thoughts: A comparible intel costs 3 times as much so this is a great bargin. So buy it already.

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Jman43
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
This user purchased this item from Newegg
1/19/2008 9:53:32 AM

Rating + 5 Awesome for mid-level computer


Pros: Put it into a sub $600 computer and works jsut great

Cons: None

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lsashby
Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 month to 1 year
This user purchased this item from Newegg
1/18/2008 7:26:38 AM

Rating + 5 AMD Processors are great


Pros: It's AMD. Have never had a problem with AMD Processors. Fast, overclockable, runs cool, and reliable. I got it at NEWEGG.

Cons: None

Other Thoughts: I've been building systems for years. The first system I bought was a Pentium 100. It ran hot, had errors, and rebooted alot with windows 3.11. Bought a AMD 233 and no problems on same system. Even used same heatsink/fan. Ran cooler and no errors or rebooting. Have been buying and building with AMD since. NEWEGG is by far the fastest, cheapest(cost wise), and most reliable internet source on this planet.

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Kelly
Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
This user purchased this item from Newegg
1/14/2008 7:45:19 PM

Rating + 5 WOW !


Pros: Way better than my P805 faster disc burn quiet silent no fan speeding up and back down

Cons: none

Other Thoughts: I love AMD I've owned 3 of the other guys processor in my life time okay in 15years and 7 seven AMDs I love AMD inexpensive and fast.

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N/A
Tech Level: somewhat low
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
This user purchased this item from Newegg
1/6/2008 5:33:31 PM

Rating + 5


Pros: I've noticed a big difference after upgrading from an Athlon XP 2400+. I can actually watch HDTV on my computer now and it only requires about 40% of one core (2% to record).

Cons: None.

Other Thoughts: Haven't tried OC'ing yet...

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Alpo
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: 1 month to 1 year
This user purchased this item from Newegg
1/6/2008 8:52:22 AM

Rating + 5 I like it


Pros: Fast,my pc never lags, cheap and its a dual core

Cons: It's hard for me to find a con because my last pc had an old Pentium 3 900mhz.

Other Thoughts: with the sudden price drops, it's easy to justify going for something higher like the 6400+. I'm an AMD fan from experiences with a friends old 939 rig, I would stay away from the phenom for now until things get worked out for it.

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Sura
Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
1/6/2008 2:05:22 AM

Rating + 5 Good Multi-tasking processor


Pros: Runs all my apps very well. Plays Blu-Ray and HD movies without missing a beat. With C'n'Q enabled it works at 50 to 60% @ 1.8Ghz. Pretty good. Earlier had a X2 3800 that was working hard at 70%.

Cons: Temp. sensors are broken. Shows idle core temperature as 4C and 2C. Load as 13C and 10C when both cores stressed. Impossible with room temp around 28C.

Other Thoughts: Wanted to exchange this proc because of the broken temp sensor. But this sucker overclocked to 3.1 on a ECS 6100SM-M board with just .05 increase in VCore. So if I have a good board this will definetely go more than 3.3G. Current setup X2 4800 + ECS Nforce6M-A + Corsair XMS 6400 2Gig+ LG Blu-ray+HD-DVD rom + etc etc.

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GregB
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
This user purchased this item from Newegg
1/4/2008 1:01:19 PM

Rating + 5 Awesome


Pros: What can I say, it's AMD it's dual core, it's 2.5 Ghz. Being used for home music recording and I have Session up to 8 + tracks and not a burp.

Cons: None that I can think of.

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N/A
Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 month to 1 year
12/31/2007 6:58:45 AM

Rating + 5 Important Info


Pros: This processor is great, fast, and cheap. but ive already written a review about the pros and cons.

Cons: see other thoughts....

Other Thoughts: The temperature sensors on many of the 4800's are out of whack. Even on most of the brisbane cores. For instance, SpeedFan shows my processor running and 3C right now...not possible w/ stock HSF. I have even seen temps as low as 1C w/ speedfan and core temp. Just a warning for those of you that have crazy temp readings.

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evans1216
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
This user purchased this item from Newegg
12/21/2007 1:22:36 AM

Rating + 4 okayish


Pros: dual core 2.5 mhz for 100 bux.
fits in cheap AM2 mobos.
fan is quiet and temp seems okay.

Cons: didnt see big jump from athlon xp 3200 socket A. it is faster, and things get done quicker. just was expecting more i guess.

Other Thoughts: the mobo i picked doesnt overclock.
not that i overclock anyway. so i cant really push this proc.

over all i dont regret picking this particular processor. it was a good value and has potential in a better mobo later on.

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Rob
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
This user purchased this item from Newegg
12/20/2007 8:35:47 PM

Rating + 5 Nice Processor Low Power


Pros: Worked great. Fast and only 65W. Very easy to install in mother board. Comes as complete kit with heat sink. Worked well for me.

Cons: None I could find.

Other Thoughts: I think AMD makes one or two faster models that are still 65W -- might be worth looking at those also.

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Eroc
Tech Level: average
Ownership: 1 month to 1 year
This user purchased this item from Newegg
12/17/2007 2:38:03 PM

Rating + 5 Great Value


Pros: Absolutely no problems with install. I'm not an overclocker so it seems plenty fast for me. No heat issues 28
degrees at idle 47 degrees under full load with stock hs.

Cons: none

Other Thoughts: Newegg has been great at getting the orders out and to my door a lot faster than the 3-5 days standard shipping. Thanks, Newegg this processor is a great value for average user.

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Ben
Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
This user purchased this item from Newegg
12/16/2007 10:29:07 AM

Rating + 5 A must buy


Pros: I did some research on the Brisbane, and it's designed to run cool. They weren't kidding. It ran insanely cooler than my old pentium IV HT. Plus, it's very very fast. It's an awesome processor.

Cons: None.

Other Thoughts: Easy installation

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Ben
Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 month to 1 year
This user purchased this item from Newegg
12/15/2007 1:00:07 PM

Rating + 5 Great CPU


Pros: Great performance for the price. Overclocks well. I have it running at a stable 2.92 ghz (12 x 243) at 1.4v with the stock fan/heatsink.

Cons: A bigger cache would be nice, but haven't run into any problems.

Other Thoughts: Overall a great CPU!

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The_Predator31
Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
This user purchased this item from Newegg
12/14/2007 5:05:15 PM

Rating + 5 great


Pros: Cool and fast, just how I like them

Cons: none

Other Thoughts: upgrade over a XP 2000+. What a difference. On a M2n-e board. stock speeds w/ good temps on stock cooler.

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N/A
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: 1 month to 1 year
This user purchased this item from Newegg
12/14/2007 3:03:35 PM

Rating + 5 love it


Pros: Low power consumption, runs nice and cool with stock fan (29 c, but I only use it for Vista MC)... Great price. First AMD chip and I'm quite happy with it

Cons: Honestly can't think of one.

Other Thoughts: Works excellent for what I need it for.

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JWR
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
This user purchased this item from Newegg
12/14/2007 6:27:49 AM

Rating + 5 Great performance


Pros: Great performance especially considering the current price.

Cons: CPU fan somewhat noisey.

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N/A
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
This user purchased this item from Newegg
12/14/2007 2:44:32 AM

Rating + 5


Pros: This is a very nice processor on the cheap. I got it overclocked to 3.0Ghz at stock voltage. It runs no more than 50 degrees celcius w/ stock heatsink and fan.

Cons: None

Other Thoughts: AMD 64 X2 4800+, ASUS M2NBP-VM CSM, Transcend 2GB DDR2 800, BFG 8800GT(in the mail) great system on the cheap!

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YerMAMA!
Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
This user purchased this item from Newegg
12/12/2007 2:16:32 PM

Rating + 5 Bang for the buck


Pros: Overclocks nicely. I've had it from 2.5 up to 3.1 so far with about a 40 C temperature max at idle. I haven't pushed it much farther as of yet and my memory is still only at the default clock under stock cooling and an 80mm case fan.

Cons: Needs a bigger L2 cache. Still doesn't run some games as smoothly as it could with the 2G of 800MHz RAM and 7600GT PCI-Ex16 card I have.

Other Thoughts: These processors need a 1M L2 cache, or better even with the onboard memory control, but are hard to beat for their price. I could easily have a 3.2+ GHz processor for under $100 with stock cooling.

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xgsound
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: 1 month to 1 year
This user purchased this item from Newegg
12/12/2007 12:36:18 AM

Rating + 5 Good deal


Pros: Fast, fan cools well and is quiet.

Cons: none

Other Thoughts: You can use cool n quiet to cycle the CPU/fan speed down further.

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Glenngds
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
This user purchased this item from Newegg
12/8/2007 9:56:40 PM

Rating + 5 Great CPU


Pros: Runs much cooler than my Socket 754 Athlon 64 3400+ or socket 939 Athlon 64 X2 4200+ at idle or at full load about 25 degrees cooler. It is more powerful than both of the previous CPU's put together.

Cons: none

Other Thoughts: Thanks to Newegg I could afford this CPU

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Whatzit
Tech Level: average
Ownership: 1 month to 1 year
This user purchased this item from Newegg
12/7/2007 10:03:54 PM

Rating + 5 Stable and wonderful


Pros: Stable, solid and fast. I bought this processor for a gaming system and had no troubles installing. Great buy

Cons: none

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N/A
Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
This user purchased this item from Newegg
12/1/2007 3:49:18 PM

Rating + 5 Completely Silent!


Pros: Completely silent operation! Under XP Pro, doing business applications, the processor is sufficiently cool to allow the heat sink fan to spin gently and quietly!

Cons: None so far!

Other Thoughts: I got this processor as part of a system upgrade. I got it for its low energy consumption, and got a bonus feature of completely silent operation!

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N/A
Tech Level: average
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
This user purchased this item from Newegg
11/28/2007 12:55:49 AM

Rating + 5 Works


Pros: Was easy to install. Fan is quite.

Cons: Have to use fan & heat sink that comes with CPU otherwise you void warranty.

Other Thoughts: 16c idle temp. Fan speed 1150. I ran CPU test. Both cores at 100% for 15 minutes. 41c temp. Fan speed 2385. No temp increase during the last 10 minutes of the test. After test, temp and fan speed back to idle readings in less than a minute. I used Hot CPU Tester PRO 4 lite version.

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PATriotSfan3912
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: 1 month to 1 year
This user purchased this item from Newegg
11/27/2007 11:42:44 AM

Rating + 4 VERY NICE


Pros: Great CPU stock fans are quiet and work well. Im still planning on purchasing others before overclocking.

Cons: Stock fan is nice for coming with it but when trying to overclock it gets hot even in Raidmax Smilodon case with 6 fans.

Other Thoughts: Very good for the cheap price

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Chino
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: 1 month to 1 year
This user purchased this item from Newegg
11/26/2007 4:21:41 PM

Rating + 5 ITS LIKE LOVE


Pros: i have this puppy runnin at 2.825 mhz and my temp's only 34*C. i guess i should add that i have a crummy case and crummier fans. i wouldn't be afraid to OC this bad boy over 3mhz. once i get my new case and 200 mm fan, 2x 140 mm fans, and 2x 120 mm fans, i play to test this baby to its fullest

Cons: none. its cheap. its well built. its fast. its AMD BABY!!!

Other Thoughts: i have noticed several times recently(i've had it for 4 months or so) that the cpu fan that comes in-box had for no reason just stopped running. could be bios not registering properly, but could be just my bad for running s stock fan :D

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kDog
Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 month to 1 year
This user purchased this item from Newegg
11/23/2007 10:39:44 AM

Rating + 5 Happy


Pros: Runs cool. I haven't tried overclocking it - there's no need to.

Cons: None.

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JV
Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
This user purchased this item from Newegg
11/21/2007 8:00:53 PM

Rating + 5 I'm an AMD fan


Pros: I like the underdog.

AMD isn't making the fastest chips right now, but at price/value, it's still a great option. This one hit 3.1Ghz on stock voltage and air on a cheap motherboard.

Cons: None

Other Thoughts: There are faster low end Intel's, true, but they're a little more money. If you're shaving a few bucks here, a few more there on a system build, AMD comes up as a great option.

If you're overclocking this one, I think you can expect 3.0 Ghz (there are no guarantee's you know) - this chip reached 3.2 Ghz with a minor voltage bump using a Rosewill Z1 HSF.

Never has gone beyond 45 degrees C, under full load for two hours, 78F room temp.

At 3.0 Ghz, Sandra XII rates this at 21600 MIPS, 17800 MFlops.

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N/A
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
This user purchased this item from Newegg
11/16/2007 11:59:32 AM

Rating + 5 Nice processor


Pros: Excellent processor ,stock fan quiet and keeps my CPU around 33C idle.Very satisfied with 65W processor.

Cons: none

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N/A
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: 1 month to 1 year
This user purchased this item from Newegg
11/14/2007 7:55:44 PM

Rating + 5


Pros: good value for the money

Cons: none

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N/A
Tech Level: average
Ownership: 1 month to 1 year
This user purchased this item from Newegg
11/14/2007 12:35:18 PM

Rating + 5 Great box & mb


Pros: Absolutely no problems. Relatively quiet. Installed MEPIS 7.0 beta Linux. NVIDIA chips detected. Runs very cool.

Cons: Would have liked another SATA port.

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N/A
Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
This user purchased this item from Newegg
11/12/2007 11:51:14 AM

Rating + 5 Fast Processor for the money


Pros: Fast Processor, good for the money runs all my games no prob!

Cons: None

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N/A
Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
11/10/2007 3:06:51 PM

Rating + 5 Awesome!!


Pros: This processor is awesome. Runs very stable and very cool. Somehow mine idles at 6-10C... which is amazing. Great buy for under $100, I much prefer this CPU to my i**** 6600.

Cons: ****Emptiness****

Other Thoughts: I wonder if my CPU would freeze if i got an after market cooler.... :/

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narph500
Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
This user purchased this item from Newegg
11/9/2007 1:33:45 PM

Rating + 5 Great low power htpc


Pros: Overclocks 10% with SPD voltage. Haven't tried higher voltages because this is for a HTPC and don't need the extra heat.

Great CPU for the price.

Cons: The heat sink is a little wimpy if you are going to OC it.

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939 != AM2
Tech Level: average
Ownership: less than 1 day
This user purchased this item from Newegg
11/5/2007 5:27:04 PM

Rating + 4 AM2 is NOT Socket 939!


Pros: Probably a smoking chip!

Cons: Since this is a socket AM2 chip, it will *not* work in a socket 939 motherboard. My motherboard said it would take the AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+. Who knew they made a socket 939 AND an AM2 style? Yes, I noobed it; don't make the same mistakes I have!

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N/A
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
This user purchased this item from Newegg
11/4/2007 7:42:33 PM

Rating + 5


Pros: Runs good.Less than $100. Overclocks to 3.2ghz on air.

Cons: None

Other Thoughts: Overclocked up to 3.2 stable. I run it 24/7 At 3.0 100% load 45*C temp.

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Spoolchild
Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
This user purchased this item from Newegg
11/3/2007 8:23:48 PM

Rating + 5 great cpu


Pros: great cpu for the money. Overclocks like a champ.

Cons: none really. Runs good

Other Thoughts: If you're going to overclock it make sure you get a better cpu cooler. The stock one isn't that great. If you've got an extra $30, go for the 5600.

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Keozon
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
This user purchased this item from Newegg
10/30/2007 12:34:22 PM

Rating + 5 Fantastic, Low Power CPU


Pros: Shockingly low power consumption -- allows me to run my system on less than 275W with fantastic performance. Very cool -- at 30-32C in Micro ATX Case with stock cooler.

Cons: Stock fan a little noisy, but that's an easy fix.

Other Thoughts: With a PNY GeForce 8400GS card and a little bit of over clocking, I can run LOTRO at Very High graphics with little to no lag. All on 275 W!! Amazing!

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Blazius
Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
This user purchased this item from Newegg
10/28/2007 10:04:20 PM

Rating + 5 FAST!


Pros: Super fast chip! I've been able to run multiple programs with no lag or sluggish behavior whatsoever. Data transfer is phenomenal! My graphics in multimedia and games are fast and do not hesitate at all.

Cons: none

Other Thoughts: I definitely recommend this chip for anyone that desires a fast and reliable system.

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moe
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
This user purchased this item from Newegg
10/27/2007 5:22:20 PM

Rating + 4 not a great overclocker


Pros: Works good with cooler comes together. The temperature is about 29C in idle, but could get as high as 50 when busy. Dual core runs OK, except I couldn't get MATLAB 7.4 (2007a) to run in parallel (without the distribution computing).

Cons: It a bit hotter than Exxxx series. And I had a hard time to overclock it. I could only get about 225 MHz*12.5, and is not very stable. But this might be limited by my motherboard (abit an-m2).

Other Thoughts: If you want a dual-core CPU and not a lot hard-core computing, the competitive price make this a really good buy.

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N/A
Tech Level: average
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
This user purchased this item from Newegg
10/26/2007 7:25:09 PM

Rating + 5 Fast and Stable


Pros: Upgraded from an Athlon 3800+ single core. Had to play some games at mid to mid/high settings with the single core. I also upgraded to a new main board and 800 MHZ memory from a 939 rig. Now run my games maxed out. Not sure how much to attribute to the procssor change, but I assume it accounts for much of the performance difference.

Cons: None.

Other Thoughts: Keep buying AMD! Intel is going to set pricing wherever they want if AMD leaves the scene. I don't think that's going to happen, but Intel has really done well since C2D launched. Looks like the new Opterons are getting great review by large business customers. Hopefully, Phenom will top C2D. Competition keeps processors affordable for us, so by AMD if it fits the need!

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CDRSteve
Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 month to 1 year
This user purchased this item from Newegg
10/24/2007 11:04:29 AM

Rating + 5


Pros: Great Performance for Price.

Cons: Stock HSF a little noisy. Replaced with Zalman 9500 and all is quiet and cool.

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N/A
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: less than 1 day
10/23/2007 6:15:33 PM

Rating + 5 Best bang for your buck


Pros: best deal going for fast dual core processor. Fast as hell before overclocking.... nevermind after... and it's cheap

Cons: 512KB cache per core - should've been at least 1MB per core. Then it would better compete with the 2M-4M on the Core2 Duo

Other Thoughts: I don't own this exact chip. I have the 1.9GHz version running at a 50% overclock on air cooling. I wish I'd bought this one instead, as I have hit the ceiling of what my RAM will take.

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mwrobo
Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
This user purchased this item from Newegg
10/23/2007 7:06:06 AM

Rating + 5 Great Processor


Pros: upgraded from a single processor 3200+ and performance is almost double what I had and just as quiet and uses less power

Cons: none so far

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N/A
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
This user purchased this item from Newegg
10/19/2007 2:43:58 PM

Rating + 5


Pros: Super cool and quiet on stock clock with factory heatsink and fan. Plenty of processing power for a benjamin.

Cons: I don't understand AMD's numbering system.

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xPrestonx
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
This user purchased this item from Newegg
10/17/2007 12:10:03 PM

Rating + 5 Slick


Pros: I put it in a MicroATX case and it's running nice and cool with the stock fan & heat sink. Like 32 degrees or so. I played "Call of Duty" for a little while and it went up a few degrees, but nothing serious.

Cons: None really.

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pkinc
Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
10/14/2007 11:57:21 AM

Rating + 5 Quiet Cool and Fast


Pros: Using an Asus M2N SLI Deluxe with stock CPU fan, which supports Cool N Quiet (off by default in bios) and QFan (also off by default) cpu fan is 1642 rpm, can't hear it, CPU temp is 89F (32C), and I can barely hear computer running at all. With CNQ enabled CPU temp drops to 78F (26C). Either way is insanely low for idle temps, have never seen CPU exceed 102F (38C) during intensive cpu usage.

Cons: There may be a slight initial lag when using CNQ mode.

Other Thoughts: No need to overclock, built for stability. In the hundreds of builds over the last 10 years, I have consistently found that cheaping out on the motherboard
(spending under $120 regardless of decade/year/socket type) has always rewarded me with pain sooner or later. Your mileage may vary.

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fc
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
This user purchased this item from Newegg
10/13/2007 7:11:40 AM

Rating + 5 update on review on 10-6 with no title


Pros: excellent amd cpu and midrange price point and performance as per anandtech. Needed an upgrade to AM2 for preparation of K10, and anandtech said the time to buy midrange cpu's is now.

Cons: none

Other Thoughts: Earlier I said the pc rebooted after attempting to download exe files. That was me having the wrong V rated ram for my motherboard. Go figure.

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Adrenaline Junkie
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
This user purchased this item from Newegg
10/9/2007 11:58:13 AM

Rating + 5 Performance on a budget


Pros: Vista x64 is blazing fast with this and a couple GB of ram. All my games are absolutely flawless as well. I was worried that it would be the bottleneck of my system since I play some MMORPG's and such but not at all. I regularly alt+tab out and look stuff up on the web and it does it all instantly and has no residual effects like lag. Seriously impressed.

Cons: Have to get a patch from AMD for some games (like EverQuest but not WoW) to play properly. Easy to find though.

Other Thoughts: Be sure you have enough ram if you plan to do gaming and such. It will push the load to your hdd and cpu - thus slowing you down considerably - if you don't.

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N/A
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: less than 1 day
This user purchased this item from Newegg
10/6/2007 4:00:58 PM

Rating + 5


Pros: very good, stable c.p.u right out the box. Quick and easy installation with the retail box set up and heat sink. Good price and performance. Anti-virus protection included in chip.

Cons: None.

Other Thoughts: This will be the last AM2 chip until the new AM2+ chips come out. On a second note, I am getting a system restart when attempting to download any executable file. Is that the built in amd antivirus or windows?

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Tom
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
10/6/2007 8:32:19 AM

Rating + 5 Very Fast


Pros: Cheap, Fasssst and quite right out of the box. Easy installation and it was great that it includes the cooling fan and heatsink. AMD is just a great all round CPU.

Cons: none

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Pip
Tech Level: average
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
This user purchased this item from Newegg
9/29/2007 8:40:30 AM

Rating + 5 Great processor!


Pros: Great Processor! Upgraded from an AMD 2700+ 939 and can really tell the difference!

Cons: Instruction book. Not a pamphlet or a guide, a book!

Other Thoughts: Great shipping from Newegg!

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Hide
Tech Level: average
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
9/27/2007 10:50:04 PM

Rating + 5 Great


Pros: Great, runs fast. I overclocked it to 3.01 Ghz with the stock fan and heat sink. Don't want to push it farther until i buy a better fan and heat sink.

Cons: None that I can think of.

Other Thoughts: Highly recommend this processor.

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headrush
Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
9/25/2007 3:15:39 PM

Rating + 5 Pretty quick, easy Overclocker


Pros: Low watts. Very easy initial overclock to 2.75 running EPP 4-4-4-12 Corsair on Abit An9 32x Fatal1ty with no other changes than upping the DDR2 voltage to 2.1. OCCT, Orthos (8+ hours), Super Pi 16 million stable.

Cons: Who uses the stock heatsink/fan anymore anyways? :)

Other Thoughts: Love AMD processors. They always give me an easy 2-300 mhz stable OC right off the bat with no tweaking or problems. Depending on your mobo, tweaks may be required to go beyond. make sure they can support voltage increases and that you use a decent PSU if you want to go high. I use Abit mobos exclusively, because I have had nothing but good luck/results with them; I tried a DFI last time and it too was nice, easy and also reliable...took a 939 4000+ to 2.8 on air. ;-)

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Whikka
Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
This user purchased this item from Newegg
9/25/2007 9:38:47 AM

Rating + 5 Excellent CPU


Pros: CPU working fine, none too hot and came for a great price.

Cons: none

Other Thoughts: Have to say, I'm an AMD fanboy, and have been since the K5 days. I was hoping to wait for Barcelona to upgrade, but I'm very happy with this CPU

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river
Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
This user purchased this item from Newegg
9/21/2007 6:05:58 PM

Rating + 5 nice CPU


Pros: Every virtue you can think of. Best price/quality ratio among all AMD X2 CPUs. Well, I am not an extreme gamer, trust me, 4800+ is good enough for you.

Cons: None as I can think

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Apple
Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
9/18/2007 9:33:10 PM

Rating + 5 Great for the price


Pros: This thing rocks!!! I got it from newegg and put it in. I recently did a performance on it and it showed up at 7.2 Ghz total

Cons: Not a Xeon

Other Thoughts: Not overclocking at all

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GeneralZ
Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
This user purchased this item from Newegg
9/15/2007 8:42:24 AM

Rating + 5 Awesome


Pros: Runs amazingly cool even after hours of games, never gets above 111 degrees farenheit. General use puts it at about 90 degrees. My old single core with general use was like 140 degrees, so the increase in power and decrease in temperature is awesome. Fast CPU, true multitasking, Go AMD!!

Cons: Its not free.

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pipper
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: 1 month to 1 year
This user purchased this item from Newegg
9/11/2007 3:34:00 AM

Rating + 5 Got 2nd one


Pros: 65nm overclocks to 2.8 and still uses 1.3 volts of power

Cons: multiplier is hard to work with and 512 L2

Other Thoughts: 12.5 multiplier can be overcome by oc'ing FSB to 224 = 2.8ghz. This also makes DDR2 800 run at 400mhz. If unstable lower FSB by 2's until stable. I had so much fun with this that this is the second review and cpu.

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GeckoDeLimon
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
This user purchased this item from Newegg
9/7/2007 11:33:02 AM

Rating + 5 Exactly how fast is this guy?


Pros: I upgraded from a Barton 3200+ and saw a 3-fold increase in my transcoding performance of h264. And the app isn't even multithreaded, so one core was still bumping along at over 50% idle. Along with an el-cheapo GF 7300LE, I'm able to play back 1080p with about 40% CPU utilization. w00t!

Cons: Stock cooler, while certainly sufficient, kinda bites. About on par with a < ten-dollar aftermarket cooler. On the upshot, the fan is inaudible. I still used it, because I've no intention to overclock my home media server.

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EvilJellybelly...
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
9/4/2007 2:18:59 PM

Rating + 5 AweSOME!!!


Pros: Man this thing runs like fassssssssssst!...Stock Fan, whats the point overclock, which burn more energy power anyways stock All the WAY!......still idle 40F-50F warm but still CoooooL!!! Energy Efficient!....

Cons: AfterMarket fan would be cool with combo at elecktronic FRIES.....Darn!...

Other Thoughts: Nine-Hundred case is Awesome keeps my baby.....KooL!!!!!!!!24/7 baby!...

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wolverine I
Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 month to 1 year
This user purchased this item from Newegg
9/1/2007 8:02:37 PM

Rating + 5 Fast and smooth


Pros: Overclocked to 2.9 gig at stock
hit 3.0 with 1.39vcore runs cool
36c As easy to overclock as my opty 148 to 3.0 gig,just needed to get used to the ddr2/am2 settings

Cons: none

Other Thoughts: works well with budget biostar ti7025,just needed bios update for temp and vcore reading fix
gskill 6400 ran up to 456/912

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raj
Tech Level: average
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
This user purchased this item from Newegg
8/31/2007 4:02:50 PM

Rating + 5 Runs Cool


Pros: Great cpu for the price and runs cool with the stock cooler. Very satisfied.

Cons: None so far.

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N/A
Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 month to 1 year
This user purchased this item from Newegg
8/28/2007 7:14:49 PM

Rating + 5 Great Chip


Pros: Fit the budget and performs well

Cons: none at this time

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Nate
Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
This user purchased this item from Newegg
8/25/2007 10:43:35 PM

Rating + 5 Good


Pros: Great bang for the buck runs cool around 30c idle with stock cooler

Cons: None

Other Thoughts: got a free mp3 player that was nice.

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STP34
Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
This user purchased this item from Newegg
8/21/2007 10:05:42 AM

Rating + 5 Awsome


Pros: 65 nm is cool cause it runs cool. Cheap. 1.25-1.35V. Overclocks be on par with 6000. Thats pretty sad for the people the paid an extra 70 for a chip

Cons: None

Other Thoughts: Ht multiplier must be set to 12.5 with crosshair board. It set it to 12 and the chip was running 2.4. No big deal really.

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N/A
Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
This user purchased this item from Newegg
8/18/2007 5:07:20 AM

Rating + 5 very nice


Pros: runs very cool and overclocks easily. I have it at 2.6 gHz on stock cooling. power savings over my previous processor (athlon thunderbird) are noticeable.

Cons: my board can only take one?

Other Thoughts: I'm barely pushing this chip, so I know it can go way higher, especially when I go to water-cooling in the spring. A bigger L2 cache would have made this chip out perform the FX-62. Maybe AMD will get wise on the next chip

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uberchrislol
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
This user purchased this item from Newegg
8/17/2007 2:13:02 PM

Rating + 5 Awesome


Pros: Running fast and cool (28C), easy install

Cons: none

Other Thoughts: Free mp3 player was icing on the cake :)

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N/A
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
This user purchased this item from Newegg
8/16/2007 3:43:54 AM

Rating + 5 Brisbane is Cool


Pros: The Brisbane is a bit cooler runs around 32C, plays some games and jumps to 38C with BIOSTAR TF7025 motherboard, stock fan. The case is a LinkWorld 437-01-C2229, I put a front 80mm fan.

Cons: None

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Scrappy
Tech Level: low
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
This user purchased this item from Newegg
8/13/2007 1:22:45 PM

Rating + 5 Great CPU!


Pros: Great processor! Install simple and stock cooler works perfectly! Good buy!

Cons: none yet

Other Thoughts: pwr spl Lain Li 500w; mb Asus M2N4-SLI; AMD Atlon 64 X2 4800+; EVGA 8600 GTS; A-Data 2gb (2 x 1gb) 1.8v

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ajboyce
Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
This user purchased this item from Newegg
8/10/2007 6:35:07 PM

Rating + 5 nice CPU!


Pros: price, runs cool

Cons: none that i have seen.

Other Thoughts: This thing runs cool. I idle about 82F with the stock cooler. Im running the 4800+, 2gb ram, and a ati x1900xtx.

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cheerios!
Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
8/9/2007 11:23:43 PM

Rating + 5 nice processor


Pros: Wow it actually runs really cool at 29C with Thermaltake Mini Typhoon! And considering thats only 5 degrees higher than room temperature, YAY! :)

Cons: Pity there's only 2 x 512MB L2 Cache, I should have just paid a few dollars more for a X2 5200+ which is 2.6GHz and has 2x1MB L2 cache.

Other Thoughts: Ah well it still performs well. 2GB Corsair XMS2 RAM, Powercolor HD 2600XT, Thermaltake 500W PSU

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gandhii
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
This user purchased this item from Newegg
8/9/2007 4:17:25 PM

Rating + 5 good speed for the price


Pros: it works. runs pretty cool.. comes with a heatsink/fan

Cons: heatsink is standard cheap aluminum deal.. generally stays around 44C in a 75-78F room. Not great, but not bad. And not terribly quiet either.. but not as bad as most cheap heatsink/fans I've seen. May eventually get a good quality silent heatsink for it.

Other Thoughts: Running 64bit Kubuntu without a problem. Perfectly stable.

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natedogg319
Tech Level: average
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
This user purchased this item from Newegg
8/6/2007 7:08:57 PM

Rating + 5 runs quick and cool


Pros: I now have the fastest computer i have played on, with this processor. my computer never bogs down, and i have felt the heatsink after hours of gaming and it is still barely room temperature, granted i have like 7 fans in my case, but still rules. great price, and i dont plan to overclock so i had no problem spending less for athlon over C2D.

Cons: not single one.

Other Thoughts: asus m2n-e, this processor, 2 x 1 GB OCZ gold ram, EVGA 8800gts, 600W Xion psu. great PC!!!

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N/A
Tech Level: high
Ownership: more than 1 year
This user purchased this item from Newegg
8/6/2007 1:22:20 PM

Rating + 5 Third one


Pros: Great value, low voltage, quiet and stable. I considered a faster speed, but this is my third 4800 X-2 Brisbane, and I am thoroughly satisfied.

Cons: None

Other Thoughts: Newegg, great selection.

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AdComp
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: 1 month to 1 year
This user purchased this item from Newegg
8/6/2007 8:36:08 AM

Rating + 2 Revisited


Pros: Past history of company.....

Cons: R.I.P.

Other Thoughts: Kinda sad about AMD, Got this processor because of the 65nm technology. Then I find out there is something wrong with the internal heat sensor. I also bought a ati 1950xt which I came to find out does no adjust the fan speed to the correct values for increased temp. had to download ATI tools to run the fan at correct speeds, else the card would overheat and shut down my system. No OC either. After of ten years of AMD loyalty, I will no longer support AMD, Too bad their CEOs are not enthusiasts. They only manage for the bottom line and are destroying AMD

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mike
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: less than 1 day
This user purchased this item from Newegg
8/2/2007 10:41:38 AM

Rating + 5 Cool and Fast


Pros: Idles at 38C, max at 50. Big upgrade over my previous computer. Easy to OC. Fast for the price point.

Cons: Not fast enough compared to C2D

Other Thoughts: Came with a few pins, I had to unbend them myself.

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Korrupt
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
This user purchased this item from Newegg
8/2/2007 6:45:19 AM

Rating + 5 very nice cpu


Pros: Best processor i've ever had

Cons: None

Other Thoughts: I have this chip on an Asus M2R32-MVP with a Rosewill RCX-Z3 stable at 2.75Ghz. Idles at 35C and 44C under load. Love it!

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N/A
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
This user purchased this item from Newegg
8/2/2007 12:11:33 AM

Rating + 5 Works Great!!


Pros: Works as expected, use it in a built server for virtualization. Ran 3 virtual servers at once have no problem. Run with 2GB memory.

Cons: None

Other Thoughts: Hope to run more virtual servers with addtional memory.

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kep4321
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
This user purchased this item from Newegg
7/25/2007 8:17:00 PM

Rating + 5 nice and fast


Pros: put it on an asus board with 2gb ram for a 70 year old relative in a new build computer. This is much faster than anything she needs to surf the web and research the family tree.

Cons: it wasn't free

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N/A
Tech Level: average
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
This user purchased this item from Newegg
7/25/2007 12:19:32 PM

Rating + 5 best for the money


Pros: price

Cons: heat sink and fan

Other Thoughts: if you OC you need a good HS this runs warm not hot at stock

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Hammer
Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
This user purchased this item from Newegg
7/24/2007 10:26:55 PM

Rating + 5 Overclocker's Delight


Pros: Highest max temp rating of all AMD CPUs, 72C. The 65nm chip switches faster, more efficient, less heat. Can be OC'ed above 3.1Ghz. Runs cool at 2.825Ghz, only 39C using stock cooling and ATRIX case.

Cons: Price dropped $15 the day after I bought it. 8^o

Other Thoughts: Slap it into the Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe with GSkill 2GB 4-4-3-5 DDR2 800. Set memory voltage to 2.05V, core to 1.325. Set multiplier to 226. Use the AiBooster pop-up to manage settings. My FSB is over 1130Mhz and system runs rock-solid.

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N/A
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
This user purchased this item from Newegg
7/23/2007 8:42:42 PM

Rating + 5


Pros: Quiet, powerful, easy to install.

Cons: It's not a 9800 for less money.

Other Thoughts: Great buy.

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ZMoney
Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
This user purchased this item from Newegg
7/23/2007 7:31:20 AM

Rating + 5 Awesome


Pros: CHEAP!!!! It runs Vista Business great on my comp. Such an upgrade from a 450MHz intel!

Cons: Does heat up a little bit. My problem was the fan layout on my comp. All I had to do was change the flow and it dropped 15 degrees. It runs idle at about 80.

Other Thoughts: Great if you are looking for a cheap solution to upgrading your processor. Must buy product!

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Some Random Guy
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
This user purchased this item from Newegg
7/20/2007 2:32:45 PM

Rating + 4 Gets hot


Pros: Its fast, it hardly ever hits 100% on both cores, and smokes my sempron 3100. Not as expensive as Intel's line.

Cons: It gets hot, randomly reboots. The fan/heatsink that comes with it is worthless. I am buying a new fan/heatsink for this processor. The thermal tape that comes on the heatsink is junk, use thermal paste, and make sure you buy case fans if your case is not well ventalated.

Other Thoughts: If I had known that it overheated like this, I would have bought case fans and a cpu fan/heatsink when I bought this processor.

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Rad_Cat
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
This user purchased this item from Newegg
7/20/2007 1:13:30 PM

Rating + 5 Great CPU


Pros: Good overclocking hit 3.0 with stock colling.

Cons: Wish stock colling was a little better

Other Thoughts: Love NewEgg

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metal matt
Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
This user purchased this item from Newegg
7/18/2007 9:24:09 PM

Rating + 5 GREAT CPU


Pros: overclocks like crazy mine is 2.8 with stock fan

Cons: NONE it's AMD

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N/A
Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
This user purchased this item from Newegg
7/18/2007 2:10:34 PM

Rating + 5 Good processor


Pros: Very fast - upgraded from Athlon T-Bird 1333. No comparison.

Cons: none

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Another Happy guy
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
This user purchased this item from Newegg
7/16/2007 8:45:31 AM

Rating + 5 Another Happy guy


Pros: Kick asz speed for the price!

This is my first new pc since 2001 -all new egg stuff.

Works well with Shuttle's small case.

Cons: Doesn't make my breakfast. ;0

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i22yb
Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
This user purchased this item from Newegg
7/15/2007 4:52:55 PM

Rating + 5 Nicey Nice!


Pros: Dual Core
Fast

Cons: none

Other Thoughts: Allota bang for the buck!

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Chris
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: 1 month to 1 year
This user purchased this item from Newegg
7/14/2007 10:08:59 AM

Rating + 5 Liking it


Pros: Fast, easy install, runs cool, fast, inexpensive. Running nice with an EVGA 590 SLI mobo and Corsair PC2-6400 RAM.

Cons: Can't think of any for my needs.

Other Thoughts: I couldn't spend too much money but I wanted to run several virtual machines on one computer instead of several physical computers sucking power and making noise. This seemed to have the balance I wanted between price, speed, and energy efficiency.

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Cobber
Tech Level: somewhat high
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
This user purchased this item from Newegg
7/14/2007 5:28:49 AM

Rating + 5


Pros: If you want warp speed performance at low cost, then this is the processor for you.!
Buy it..!!

Cons: None

Other Thoughts: Newegg is the BESTEST..!!

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N/A
Tech Level: average
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
This user purchased this item from Newegg
7/11/2007 3:17:18 PM

Rating + 5 Amazing


Pros: Very fast. Ordered it with a combo aftermarket fan and it has yet to get warm. Runs Vista very well. My old computer also used to slow down after files began getting installed and this chip handles all of those files and more.

Cons: The fan was annoying to install...otherwise nothing.

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N/A
Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
This user purchased this item from Newegg
7/9/2007 10:54:38 AM

Rating + 5 Excellent processor


Pros: Blazingly Fast. I am currently running Linux with this processor, Asus M2N4-SLI and Crucial Ballistix RAM. The system is so fast. Best value for money.

Cons: None

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decon
Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
This user purchased this item from Newegg
7/9/2007 8:35:58 AM

Rating + 5


Pros: Works really well in my Shuttle PC.

Great bang for your buck.

Cons: None

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Sysbuilder
Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
7/5/2007 5:21:37 PM

Rating + 5 Great Buy


Pros: Runs much cooler than toledo core on same applications. Stock cooler is more than sufficient at stock speed. Price performance ratio is Excellent

Cons: None

Other Thoughts: What are you waiting for its not going to get a whole lot cheaper anytime soon. Buy one and enjoy a faster more responsive machine. As always newegg delivered on time and in one piece

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Phill
Tech Level: high
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
This user purchased this item from Newegg
7/2/2007 9:56:53 AM

Rating + 5 Great Processor! 65WATT Version


Pros: This is a great processor! It does everything I need to and more. Multitasking is great, running CS2 with Illustrator, Photoshop, and InDesign open all at the same time without any hiccups. The only game I play is NWN2 and runs smooth without any issues.

Cons: Pure aluminum fan, no copper anywhere.

Other Thoughts: The Brisban is the 65 watt version of the 4800+ which runs at 2.5Ghz, the previous two 4800+ the Toledo and Widsor run at 2.4Ghz and are at a tad slower and uses a higher wattage. This processor has a greater watt-to-speed ratio..giving you the best performance for your money. This processor is not on Tom’s Hardware they only show the two slower version of the 4800+. Make sure your motherboard supports the 65mn, 65watt Brisban AM2 processor. I am using the Abit AM52 with no problem.

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