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MSI 970A-G46 AM3+ AMD 970 + SB950 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
  • AMD 970
  • FX / Phenom II / Athlon II / Sempron 100 Series
  • DDR3 2133(OC)/1866
  • $79.99
  • $67.99
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3 out of 5 eggs Pretty good but the " experience" has issues 04/07/2013

This review is from: MSI 970A-G46 AM3+ AMD 970 + SB950 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS

Pros:

Crossfire and SLI compatible ( my 3 slot galaxy version gtx 580 with accelero xtreme plus hsf cooling stock-installed can have another one installed right under it if I chose and I still have one pci express x1 slot above the one card left as worst case scenario.

8 pin cpu power connector will give better power delivery stability than 4 pin ( like my previous 785gm-e51 board had). Thus better cpu overclocking stability overall from what I've researched.

Installed everything and booted right up the first time. Although some minor issues and one major issue showed up later.

All all sata connected devices ( ssd, 3tb hdd, 3 optical drives) worked out of the box.

Usb 3.0 worked out of the box without need to update or install any drivers ( Asmedia usb 3.0 driver auto installed) thus was able to transfer my movies from my wd my book 3 tb external hdd to my 3tb seagate barracuda internal hdd via that connection.

Oc Genie II setting worked flawlessly auto set my cpu to a total of 3600mhz and via overclocking the front side bus, northbridge and I think one other thing off memory automatically as result of fsb increase, although not as high an overclock as I could achieve manually of course, and everything appears to run still as stable as before EXCEPT I had to manually set my ram voltage to 1.652 ( kingston hyper x ddr3 1600mhz 9-9-9-24-27 ram meant to run at 1.65v).

Henry and John at Msi saved a customer from going to Asus or another competitor from now on with their patience and balanced listening/option giving WITHOUT arrogance. THIS is the type of experience a customer SHOULD ALWAYS receive. I've worked call centers 1/3rd of my life, customer service for at least half of it ( 16 years) and know what customer service is and should be.

If any of you MSI customers are at your wits end with Msi's tech and RMA support, John in tech support and Henry in RMA involved support ARE who you need to give chances to. I know it's difficult to believe that if you have already made judgements against a company that has treated you badly, but they have proven themselves to me.

Good price for the hardware you receive on board.

Cons:

No onboard video, thus if video card dies, i'm s o L LOL

Windows 8 Eufi option is useless unless you have a 600 series nvidia card or whatever the other series amd video card. ( gtx 580 here. my video card wasn't the GOP enabled whatever standard it required). I had to clear cmos to remove that useless setting JUST to be able to boot into windows again.
-1 egg.
Tried Fast Boost, then Msi Fast Boot. I noticed ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE in total boot up speed *includes testing with rebooting the machine & starting it up pushing power button the tower itself to cold boot the machine*
I had to clear cmos to restore being able to POST after enabling " Windows 8 Feature in bios ( AFTER I went through h$%l trying to find a bios update ...NO THANKS to Msi's Live update software for claiming I already had the MOST update to date bios...NOT March 2013 version 2.3 is as far as I know. ) Had to clear cmos just to be able to access my bios again upon boot up
-1 egg
Live Update software it WON'T find the newest bios. Why did this matter to me? 1.11 WON'T let me boot my ( ahci windows 8 pr 64 bit o.s. INSTALLED ssd into windows or even recognize it as a bootable device from post) ssd into windows IN ahci mode where it is MEANT to be.
When i installed everything ( win 8 pro 64 was already installed on my ssd when i connected it to this board) it REFUSED to boot as an AHCI device ( enabled it as ahci in bios as it was on my previous board working as it should) thus the ONLY way i could use my pc was to enabled it as IDE.
ONLY after I had to search FOREVER all day yesterday did I FINALLY find the correct webpage to download the updated bios which there had been at least 2 more since my 1.11 version that came stock with this board. ( Henry. You hit the rim but the ball didn't go in the basket on that one bud.)
I didn't think a bios update would be REQUIRED for my ssd ( o.s. music, games, documents) to function at full speed instead of only 60 to 65% of it's previous speed.
-1 egg.
My 785gm-e51 board, purchased from newegg 2 years ago & it mysteriously DIED, no warning, no lighting storm, no overclocking..nothing. just died. Went through ABSOLUTE B S dealing with MSI's horrible tech support phone ( see 785gm-e51 review with Libertarian)" John" seems to be the only guy working in tech support as I always got him WHEN i Rarely received anyone. He was nice & helped me rule out other components as being the problem & explained how to jump off my psu to rule it out.
After having to threaten to call b b b on MSI to get my tracking number for my RMA'd 785gm-e51 motherboard ( which Henry claimed was a replacement refurbished & not the same exact motherboard-repaired)..finding out in less thsn 4 days later it TOO dies for no reason ( yes I had my pc plugged into a $100.00 monster brand power strip for clean power 1k nzxt 83 amp 12v psu with only 400 ish max watts of consumption pc components connected to it)
MSI's QC in their RMA department.

Other Thoughts:

So Henry agreed to search his warehouse ( I really wanted the 990fxa-gd80 v2 board which as front usb 3.0 panel connectors.) for a new board for me and ship it free of charge.
I've heard that 990 board has a better power phase & delivery design than this one.)
Well the day that I decided on this board & told Henry, He shipped it out, and I received it 7 days later early this past friday morning 9:15 a.m. central time as promised brand new.
It could have came with more than two sata gen 3 cables, but whatever. It's not a deal breaker.They are white & black ( which helps my themed build later) with 90 degrees on one end being perfect for connecting them to the straight out facing ports 1 & 2 on the board & can use long pci express cards.
Considering that this result is NOT the normal choice that Msi ( or for companies for that matter) will agree to, it is due to the horrendous experience with them that Henry agreed to make an exception giving me a new motherboard.
I suppose I'm lucky but the custom support experience is something you don't forget easily good or bad.

Henry as promised I'm giving you full applause for saving the day & saving a customer. I've been a customer since 2004 when I purchsed my first motherboard " k8n neo platinum 754 socket amd board back in 2004" from newegg and it's STILL kicking boody on warcraft III, prince of persia, and other older but classic titles with the 2.4ghz clawhammer single core athlon 64 amd cpu.

I appreciate all the warning about the VRM overheat

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