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Thermaltake Urban S31 VP700M1W2N Black SECC ATX Windowed Mid Tower Chassis
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  • Owned For: 1 week to 1 month

1 out of 5 eggs TT's Urban S31? A Nightmare... 06/05/2014

This review is from: Thermaltake Urban S31 VP700M1W2N Black SECC ATX Windowed Mid Tower Chassis

Pros: 0.00

Cons: Where to begin? Needed a case for a "special build" with good cooling. S31 has it. Also needed the 3.5" option to mount a FDD or any 3.5" device. The S31 has it. Read TT's online manual, which is vague, but I've done this so many times before it misled me thinking that one could do it. Wasted nearly 3 hrs. on mounting a 3.5" drive. Unreal. In half that time one could install an entire system build, from A-Z. This is a $100 chassis folks.

The pics you see in the 5.25" to 3.50" plastic adapter is clear, until you get the case. Surprise! When you end up mounting a 3.50" device onto the adapter , the backend of the adapter sticks out 2.25" into the MOBO area. An ATX/mATX system board you'll be clipping your caps or other semiconductors, which may be present. That's nice, huh? Called tech support. They confirmed my nightmare. Their solution? Saw it off . Really? This is a $100 case and I have to re-engineer it by sawing off the adapter? WOW! TT's support said they would forward this problem to TT, but I'll never see the solution. Bet on it. Feel bad for tech support, they tried to do their best. This is sub-standard engineering. This is chassis 101! Can't build a chassis, fold up. I was able to reduce the extrusion to 1.3125" but it's not good enough and wrong. Many things converge around that area, like your 24pin connector for starters.

Have some cheaper cases that would make this S31 blink. Let alone the Enlight 7250AK6, Enlight 7230 series, which you can still view here on Newegg. Enlight was one of the few mfrs. that was approved by Intel. Both the black and beige Enlights house recent system builds. The beige chassis is 16 yrs. old. It's that good. Or the Antec Solo from 2008 w/4 5.25" bays I got here from Newegg. Quality chassis that work. Newegg doesn't sell the Enlights anymore, our loss. They do have Antec, however. Mounting a 3.5" device in either case is a breeze, simple, correct. 15 min. if that. Mount your 3.5" device on tray, slide in, 1-2-DONE! I thought TT sold quality. Wrong. I mean this is chassis #101. Silly.

Other cons...Mounting case fans. Can't use your fan screws. TT uses M3X28mm screws. TT doesn't supply enough. Try finding them at H.Depot. Can't. TT's MOBO screws can be pose a grounding problem. Had to get 4mm washers at HD so the CPU doesn't short out at bootup. Then TT welded the MOBO standoffs too! Stupid, PWR button on "top" and NOT recessed? DUH! The problem in all of this is you can't tell any of the shortcommings of the S31 in the description or the manual. I would expect problems with a no brand mfr. but TT? This is a chassis a case. And there are other things that I've not covered. By far, the worst product I've bought here at Newegg. They don't make the product, but trust me, go and look elsewhere.

Find an Enlight case. Or get Antec. Then, you got quality. I'm floored by TT's lack of insight/detail on this product. A waste of money and TIME.

Other Thoughts: Looks good on paper, but paper doesn't count!

Don't waste your dough on this puppy, you'll develop nightmares. OTOH, it did help reduce thermal temps. on Prescott 3.8Ghz by 10C's....But I likely could have had the same result with an Antec. No doubt. Never thought I'd be writing this review...Welcom to Wally World, sorry it's closed.

Rexus TopMotor DF121225BH 120mm Case cooler
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  • Owned For: 1 week to 1 month

5 out of 5 eggs Mach 9 speed! 05/25/2014

This review is from: Rexus TopMotor DF121225BH 120mm Case cooler

Pros: They are Top Motor (Rexus's branded). It's a Dynatron fan, high quality. Put a pair of wings on your chassis, it'll fly away!

They push massive amounts of air at stated specs. A fan controller is a must here. Used molex of course.

Cons: Well, I had an idea what to expect and it exceeded my expectations-they move air! Not really a con. The con was in a this "special build" using an Intel D915PGN N.O.S. system board. The INTC 3.8Ghz Prescott I needed to cool must be the hottest CPU ever made. 115TDP. The problem was, that these fans had zero effect on cooling that CPU. Bizzare!

Previous to getting these turbines, used the XIGMA XFS-F1252's, stated specs. @ 1500RPM 45.2 CFM. The XGMA's are super quiet, lower RPM's, put them back in the chassis. Where the solution to the CPU problem was solved, was in INTC's BIOS. Where? Turn off your CPU fan control. Really? Temps dropped from 48C at idle to 39C even reaching 35C on the low end. For a Prescott that's a miracle. Check out the net on the P4 670 Prescott, a nightmare cooling it .

Case temps from 40C to 30C on average. INTC rule-of-thumb is maintaining chassis temps at 38C, regardless of the CPU type. Read every white paper of of INTC's site on chassis maximum temps.

This was an interestesting experiment. For others this might not apply in regards to using these fans, every system board is different, etc., They may workout perfectly, they move huge amounts of air.
However, a solution was found elsewhere.

Regardless, will keep the two Top Motors. Will need a fan control on them. I came back to Rexus Top-Motor as I have their 92mm mounted in a air-duct, Enlight chassis, cooling an E8400 Wolfdale. Temps 35C idle 42C at load. Chassis temps at 28C. And only 2-80mm, 1 intake 1 exhaust. Been running this sysytem for 4 years 24/7/365. The Rexus is top notch. No cons.

Can't hear the Rexus 92mm, the case is dead quiet.

Other Thoughts: Cooling solutions come out from left field...

XIGMATEK eXTREME SILENT Series XSF-F1252 120mm Case Fan with FCB (Fluid Circulative Bearing), 4 in 1 package CFS-SXGJR-KU3
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  • Owned For: 1 week to 1 month

Pros: 1st time on the XIGMA brand for me. I've used nearly every top-notch mfr. in the fan dep't. At reg.price nothing can beat this fan. At sale price of $9.99 for 4 fans? Zero brainer. Quiet, very quiet. Well made, quality build. Used 3 in a new build, can't hear them...

Cons: Came with 3 pin connector only...Got Apevia adapters to get molex from Newegg. If you need the full RPM capacity, that's why you buy 'em, right? Then run 'em at stated spec. rate of 1500 RPM +/- 10% like these are rated.

These fans are so quiet at 100% stated RPM's you'll be amazed.

(However this is not really a con on the molex thingie...You can always snip the 3-pin and Y in the molex with the 3-pin and woula, you have both options. It's easier getting the adapters though.)

Other Thoughts: After I got these, also got XIGMA's XOF-F1252's, strictly exhaust. The XOF's are superb. This brand makes some of the quietest fans out there. Quality workmanship and value. If Newegg didn't put these fans on sale, wouldn't had the opp. to know of XIGMA's quality, in the world of fans. Thanks Newegg!

Before you mount any fan in your chassis, get a 9V DC adapter. Wire-up a molex and or 3 pin female connector. Plug the fan into the molex, for example, then plug the 9V adapter into your 120VAC strip. If the fan turns, spins, then and then only you can mount it into your chassis. This goes for any fan you buy. TEST THEM first, save yourself time if you get a flakey one. I have a dedicated 9VDC adapter all wired up just for fan testing tucked away. Easy simple and a timesaver.)


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