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ASUS P8C WS LGA 1155 Intel C216 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
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  • Owned For: 1 week to 1 month

1 out of 5 eggs BIOS and backup problems 05/24/2013

This review is from: ASUS P8C WS LGA 1155 Intel C216 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Pros: has the hardware features I want

Cons: BIOS cannot be flashed back. Unable to use my current backup software on bootable media. Manual does not correspond to BIOS CSM and Secure Boot settings

Other Thoughts: This is an update to my prior review. Further communication with ASUS confirms that the BIOS on the P8C cannot be flashed to an earlier version. I still do not have a definitive answer as to whether the BIOS can be backed up. ASUS is sending me a 0505 BIOS chip. I flashed the current BIOS chip with the 3306 version and Acronis 11 and Paragon 2013 would only load if the RAID-1 drives with the Win7 64bit Pro installation were not in the system, exhibiting the same behavior as the 3202 BIOS. The Acronis Linux kernel is unable to load and the Paragon reboots endlessly. The ASUS P8C manual states that "BIOS updating is potentially risky" but doesn't disclose that you have to buy another chip if you want to return to an earlier version. The P8C manual also lacks a description of the CSM and Secure Boot options that are part of the 3202 and 3306 BIOS. Wikipedia discusses Microsoft/Linux incompatibilities in an article about UEFI and secure boot.

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ASUS P8C WS LGA 1155 Intel C216 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
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  • Owned For: 1 week to 1 month

Pros: has the features I want

Cons: Both the print manual and the latest downloadable manual (5/21/13) do not correspond to the BIOS. BIOS apparently cannot be backed up or flashed to an earlier version. Manual refers to .rom files instead of .cap files. Acronis and latest Paragon will not run with Win7 64bit pro installation on hard drives.

Other Thoughts: I Built a P8C system with 0505 BIOS in 7/12. Acronis would load and not see SSD drives. Paragon backup software was used successfully. Bought P8C with 3202 BIOS in 4/13 and could not load Acronis from disk used with ASUS A8N-SLI and P7F-X RAID-1 WinXP systems. Paragon software reboots endlessly. Software will load if hard drives with Win7 64bit Pro not in system. "Unable to load Linux kernel" error for Acronis if drives are present. ASUS EZFlash does not permit flashing to earlier BIOS and BUPDATER will not backup BIOS, giving message "The BIOS backup is not supported due to the security policy." When I talked with tech support, they said that they had never heard of the message and sent me a new BIOS v. 3202 chip. No change in behavior and I submitted a test report form. Googled the message and found a post about another motherboard by Admin on ASUS VIP forum stating "The BIOS backup was blocked to allow the possibility to pass Windows 8 WHQL test, so is the change from .ROM to .CAP." It has been three weeks and nobody has been able to confirm whether or not it is possible to backup or backdate the P8C BIOS. Nobody has been able to explain why Acronis and Paragon will load if the hard drives are not present, but fail to load if the Win7 installation is present. Nobody has indicated when a manual corresponding to the present BIOS will be available. BIOS 3306 is now available, but nobody will tell me whether or not I should try to flash it. I will post a followup if and when these issues are addressed by ASUS. Moderator on ASUS VIP forum had this to say about another motherboard:
"No one from Asus generally reads this Forum.. so if you want to report the Bupdater issue, you need to do so through the Technical Inquiry route..
Your user manual 'should' describe the proper procedure.
It is not unusual for technical writers to do a lot of 'Cut & Paste'.. many times in places where it doesn't belong and becomes misleading."

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Western Digital WD Black WD7501AALS 750GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5
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  • Owned For: 1 week to 1 month

Pros: Although I have dealt with a failed 20 month old 500GB Caviar Black and a DOA 750 Caviar Black in the last couple of weeks, my overall experience with WD has been good (including two five year old 36GB Raptors still running in RAID 1).

Cons: 661 bad sectors out of the box is excessive for one out of three drives. WD should be aware of Intel Matrix Storage Manager issue.

Other Thoughts: I bought two drives and replaced one of the drives twice. For their part, Newegg was quick and painless. The first return was made after the Intel Matrix Storage Manager on an ASUS P7F-X labeled the drive as failed when the rebuild failed. The rebuild with the first replacement failed and HDSentinel revealed 661 bad sectors. A second replacement ended up fine after combing through the IMSM documentation. In spite of Intel's instructions to "resize the hard drive partition so that it uses the entire capacity of the hard drive" when moving a RAID 1 to larger drives, a troubleshooting tip says that a RAID rebuild can fail if there is insufficient unallocated space for RAID management. The first drive I returned was probably good, but I accepted the IMSM diagnosis when it listed the drive as "failed." The second replacement "failed" until I repartitioned it with 24MB unallocated space.

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Date Joined: 10/24/04

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  • Last Review: 05/24/13
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