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be quiet! DARK BASE PRO 900 ATX Full Tower Computer Chassis - Black
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  • neweggOwned For: 1 week to 1 month

Pros: Best quality in craftsmanship I've seen in a PC case at this price point yet. The last case I got was the Enthoo Pro and I thought it was the best quality but Be! quiet beats it hands down. The versatility is incredible, fit and finish is really good. You can take this thing almost completely apart to get at any portion you might need to mod. You can remove anything in your way, I mean it's incredible. I stripped the thing down and it didn't lose any of it's structural integrity. Super easy to work with.

Cons: The only thing I can knock about it is the power supply design. If, like in my build, you want to set it up for a traditional look..... the power supply rigging costs you like a half inch of case floor space. It would have been better to make the case even more versatile by adding a conventional power supply back plate to the kit. Granted it's a great idea for unconventional uses. Who else thought about that, right? But traditional builds (?) .... meh .... not so much. It's certainly not enough to lose an egg over in any case. (<--- pun intended, lols)

Other Thoughts: This is about every PC case out there.....every one. I've been modding for .... ever.... and this issue comes up every time. Why do Why do PC case manufacturers cut/place those access holes for the motherboard connections the way they do? Each motherboard is a little bit different than the next, right? The 24 pin connector is a couple of mm higher or lower on these boards depending on the manufacturer, right? So why wont the case manufacturers cut the holes longer to accommodate this? Like one long hole to accommodate any MB config. It's always 2 or three holes and they always place those holes to where you have to bend your 24 pin MB cable to fit it. The cut out is never centered on the 24 pin MB connector. Never. A longer cut out would cure this but nobody's seen it? It never occurred to any manufacturer or designer? Bending the cable just looks cheap and "unfinished." Usually you have to get custom tailored and softer flex cables .... either do it yourself or have it made ..... or ...... like me, extend the cut out to make the look just right. That becomes a pain since now you have to find the right grommet and that's nearly impossible, etc. etc. etc. I usually use edge guard to neaten up the look. That's it, that's all, so uh thanks for letting me vent. You folks are the best. New Eggs' not too shabby either. :)

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be quiet! DARK BASE PRO 900 ATX Full Tower Computer Chassis - Black
  • Verified Owner
  • neweggOwned For: 1 week to 1 month

Pros: Best quality in craftsmanship I've seen in a PC case at this price point yet. The last case I got was the Enthoo Pro and I thought it was the best quality but Be! quiet beats it hands down. The versatility is incredible, fit and finish is really good. You can take this thing almost completely apart to get at any portion you might need to mod. You can remove anything in your way, I mean it's incredible. I stripped the thing down and it didn't lose any of it's structural integrity. Super easy to work with.

Cons: The only thing I can knock about it is the power supply design. If, like in my build, you want to set it up for a traditional look..... the power supply rigging costs you like a half inch of case floor space. It would have been better to make the case even more versatile by adding a conventional power supply back plate to the kit. Granted it's a great idea for unconventional uses. Who else thought about that, right? But traditional builds (?) .... meh .... not so much. It's certainly not enough to lose an egg over in any case. (<--- pun intended, lols)

Other Thoughts: This is about every PC case out there.....every one. I've been modding for .... ever.... and this issue comes up every time. Why do Why do PC case manufacturers cut/place those access holes for the motherboard connections the way they do? Each motherboard is a little bit different than the next, right? The 24 pin connector is a couple of mm higher or lower on these boards depending on the manufacturer, right? So why wont the case manufacturers cut the holes longer to accommodate this? Like one long hole to accommodate any MB config. It's always 2 or three holes and they always place those holes to where you have to bend your 24 pin MB cable to fit it. The cut out is never centered on the 24 pin MB connector. Never. A longer cut out would cure this but nobody's seen it? It never occurred to any manufacturer or designer? Bending the cable just looks cheap and "unfinished." Usually you have to get custom tailored and softer flex cables .... either do it yourself or have it made ..... or ...... like me, extend the cut out to make the look just right. That becomes a pain since now you have to find the right grommet and that's nearly impossible, etc. etc. etc. I usually use edge guard to neaten up the look. That's it, that's all, so uh thanks for letting me vent. You folks are the best. New Eggs' not too shabby either. :)

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Phanteks Enthoo Primo Series PH-ES813P_BL Black w/ Blue LED Aluminum faceplates / Steel chassis ATX Full Tower Computer Case
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  • neweggOwned For: 1 month to 1 year

Pros: Great construction, tons of extras from a well designed nuts and bolts tray to fan cable extentions. Everything about this case is well built, solid and satisfying. There is plenty of room for multiple fan/res combinations and it's pretty easy to get this thing disassembled for access to most any area for your custom work. I really love that about this case.

Cons: What a heart break to make this purchase based on a lot of super positive reviews only to find this case a total bummer for water cooling. Ok so maybe not "total".....if you planed on a bay res then your golden if you planned for a "total custom show me off' case build with a cylinder type res ....... just forget it.

Admittedly I didn't do my homework on this. I listened to my "go to trusted" reviewers online and they all let me down. The biggest thing is that you're not going to be able to use the latest GeForce or AMD graphics cards in this unit and a cylinder type res.

For the overall size of this case, the relative size of the main area, you know, where the MB goes, is not really much more than a smaller mid sized case. The trick, too. is that Phanteks fools you by installing a plate and support system for hanging a cylinder type res.....but they had to know it wouldn't work with any but the least capable graphics cards!! That's what gets me the most about this whole thing.......it's almost like they just flat out lied to us and are laughing all the way to the bank. So stay away from this unit if your plans are for a show case and the very best in graphics cards go elsewhere for your case needs.

Other Thoughts: More pain: The front door panel is not reversible and if you planned to use a fan controller, say like the one I use, the Lamptron FC8, to control 14ea 140MM fans,(gotta be the finest fan controller in the world), it's not going to fit either. Oh the height/width is standard but the depth....not happening. If you mount the controller normally, the control knobs are to long and the door wont close. Can you imagine!?! How could you design a case with so called water cooling specific features and not consider all aspects of the hobby? Again, my fault for the purchase but if I could reach Linus or that British guy....I'd kick their butts for the lousy, errr well, incomplete reviews. There's so much to love about this case and there are the fatal bombs that will kill your water cooling dreams that IMO you should pass on this one.

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Display Name: James Y.

Date Joined: 01/14/07

  • Reviews: 9
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  • First Review: 01/16/11
  • Last Review: 10/24/16
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