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JetWay J8F9-P-LF AMD Geode LX800 Support 500MHz Core Clock and Low Voltage Edition Included AMD Geode LX 800 Nano ITX Motherboard/CPU Combo

  • AMD Geode
  • DDR 400
  • AMD LX800 Integrated
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  • Limited Warranty period (parts): 2 years
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  • Eric K.
  • 2/11/2009 7:46:37 AM
  • Tech Level: High
  • Ownership: 1 month to 1 year

5 out of 5 eggslinux BIOS issue (solution)

Pros: See other thoughts for solution.

Cons: See other thoughts for solution.

Other Thoughts: In response to the reviewer(s) that had trouble booting this board
with linux (attributed to BIOS issues and whatnot). This boot problem is caused by EDID (Extended Display Identification Data) detection by the linux kernel. If you compile a kernel with EDID detection turned off (and maybe just reduce your console support to just basic VGA) the system will boot without delay with a monitor or not.

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  • W C.
  • 2/7/2009 2:50:08 PM
  • Tech Level: Average
  • Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
  • Verified Owner

5 out of 5 eggsCan't beat for low power

Pros: Still amazed at the minuscule power drain - never more than 5 watts. Followed suggestions (memory, power supply, compact flash) from other reviewers and had this up and running without any problem. Using as a "headless server" for a house monitor system. 4 serial ports and 4 usb ports is certainly a plus. Small size, no fan requirement - plug it in and let it go!

Cons: Slow boot (with Ubuntu server edition) without monitor. Eventually boots, but takes 35 minutes. Keyboard connection in front of board (as others stated) and no power led header. Non-standard memory adds cost.

Other Thoughts: Contacted Jetway tech. support regarding the "headless server" hang - very quick and helpful response. Used a project box (7x5x3) from RS to house this board - fits inside great after grinding off plastic board slides. Cut a couple of holes and your in business.

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  • Anonymous
  • 2/3/2009 6:24:27 PM
  • Tech Level: High
  • Ownership: 1 month to 1 year

4 out of 5 eggsDurable, low wattage

Pros: Pulls 5w max, usually much less. We powered ours for many hours off a 2100mah 14.8v battery. We sent it to an altitude of 110,000' (33.5km), subjecting it to cold, winds, etc, without a reboot. Survived a 60' (20m) fall after hanging in a tree overnight. Very little RF, didn't even have to shield our GPS from it.

Cons: Buggy BIOS won't boot any Debian distribution while headless. If you want to run any flavor of Debian, you have to have a monitor attached. We had to switch mid-stream to Fedora. If I had bought it to use as an actual PC, I'd have hated the keyboard jack position, which oddly sticks out the front of the board. Also, doesn't like any voltage drops, at all. If you're going to run from a battery, make sure to get one with a higher voltage than you need and regulate it down.

Other Thoughts: In addition to surviving a "near space launch in a styrofoam cooler" torture test, this board survived our on-the-ground build process which included countless hours of rough handling, hundreds of hard reboots, and hundreds of insert/remove cycles of the hardware we used with it. I still have to solder a new power connector back on (the only damage when it fell from the tree), but it still works just fine with power leads clipped to it right now.

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  • Paul T.
  • 1/30/2009 6:14:25 AM
  • Tech Level: High
  • Ownership: 1 month to 1 year

4 out of 5 eggsOutstanding

Pros: Great size! Outstanding support on the Linux'ies, Wicked quiet!!! CF Card ROCKS. Gives you that this-is-the-21-century feeling when you boot it up. Outstanding value

Cons: Old style RAM is tough to track down, luckily I found a stick here on Newegg -- don't stop searching! Mini IDE header for peripherals is a major con when connecting a CD ROM Drive, I had to work out some Voodoo to get my drive bootstraped. Watt usage is just that above a wall wart -- you might have to bust out a higher amprage solution.

Other Thoughts: Freaking SHWEET motherboard. Worth it's weight ( or perhaps more, as it were ). Outstanding support from F/OSS Projects, have not found anything that fails to work :) It does require a bit of work, so hammer on geeks!

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  • Gail C.
  • 12/10/2008 4:25:40 PM
  • Tech Level: High
  • Ownership: 1 week to 1 month

4 out of 5 eggsGeek credentials required

Pros: Very low power/low heat production. Completely silent. Uses older laptop components (SO-DIMM DDR memory, mini-pci, 44 pin IDE hard drives). Box includes cables for two more USB ports and 4 serial ports. Powerful enough for light weight Linux distros like Puppy, Slax, Wolvix, etc. or a NAS distro such as FreeNAS or OpenFiler. Using a power adapter I picked up from BG Micro for 8.95. 12 volt DC, 3.33 amp, 2.5mm center positive plug.

Cons: Good luck finding a case. If you can find one, it will likely be more expensive than the board. Best bet is to make one yourself. Gentlemen, start your Dremels!
As others have posted, the documentation sucks, but there is enough of it to get by, and a lot of good info has been posted here by other reviewers.
I use a USB laptop light to indicate when its on, there are no headers for any LED lights.
It has a female plug and 12v port for a daughter board, but I've searched extensively and not found a board that will work with it. You have to search the Jetway site to find any info on this board. AMD has dropped the Geode line, and Nano-ITX boards are becoming rare. Mini-ITX and Pico-ITX seem to be the way things are headed.
The power plug was a little flakey, had to jiggle it to get it to power up sometimes. I re-soldered the 3 connections and its good now. This probably happened because of all the plugging/unplugging with the board in AT mode.

Other Thoughts: If you have an old computer around, or can get one, grab the power switch out of it, with the wires and 2 port header plug. It will drop right onto the Power switch header. Otherwise use the jumper to set the board in AT mode, as has been previously suggested. The memory chip does get warm, make sure you give it some ventilation. Beware using older CF cards in the CF slot. The first one I used overheated and died. I have no idea why, but it hasn't happened with any of the newer (1Gb or larger) cards I've used. Microdrives work well, just beware of Seagate ST1 drives with firmware 3.04 or higher- they will not work properly in IDE mode.
I'm currently working on making mine into a tiny web server. Get your Geek on!

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  • Chris L.
  • 11/25/2008 12:05:26 PM
  • Tech Level: High
  • Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
  • Verified Owner

4 out of 5 eggsGood little motherboard.

Pros: Small and Low Power (5-7watts)
4 RS232 Serial Ports!
On-board Compact Flash

Cons: Horrible documentation
Can't hear it running and no port for any indicator LED.

Other Thoughts: Tip: I used a PS/2 Y cable and was able to use both a keyboard and a mouse with the PS/2 connector. Yet another undocumented feature.

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  • Christopher R.
  • 9/28/2008 1:28:33 PM
  • Tech Level: High
  • Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
  • Verified Owner

5 out of 5 eggsGreat thinclient, good non-cpu intensive workstation

Pros: * Fanless operation
* Low power
* 4 usb 2.0 ports / 4 serial / 1 mini-pci expandability
* Runs Linux and Netbsd
* Compact Flash support is a *major plus* -- no noisy hard drives, no moving parts (I would recommend CF in read only mode if you can to prevent wear on CF).
* Definately enough CPU power as a thin client or workstation with no moving parts. Linux runs all my needed apps just fine as a workstation.
* USB drive boot support
* Network boot support

Cons: * No DVI video connector
* Laptop style IDE connector (pro/con). Would prefer standard IDE connector.
* Poorly documented manual -- definately had questions as to the power requirements of the motherboard.
* Ram slot is under CPU -- RAM tends to heat the CPU a tad; might consider a fanless low profile heat sink for added thermal comfort when putting this thing in a teeny tiny case.
* Supposedly no support for RAM beyond 1GB
* Lack for cases made for nano-ITX form factor
* Strange placement of keyboard connector

Other Thoughts: Makes a great thin client/workstation running Debian GNU/Linux (etch) and Xorg. Runs Gnome, Firefox, and other desktop apps natively at acceptable performance. Currently using vesa video driver in Xorg, 1024x768 resolution. May get higher resolution. 16GB CF drive, all partitions read only to prevent wear, and running with ramdisk for RW operations. No swap space, 1GB RAM.

Using 12V 54W laptop power supply, 5.5 x 2.5mm center positive connector. Motherboard is rated for up to 36W.

At ~$5, Ray-dee-oh shack project enclosures work just nicely as a case for this motherboard, with slight modification.

Also, if you use a USB keyboard/mount, don't even worry about the PS2 connector on the other side of the motherboard. Also, it may be a plus for thin client operation to run the keybaord/mount from the front and not the back.

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  • John B.
  • 9/13/2008 8:54:09 AM
  • Tech Level: High
  • Ownership: 1 month to 1 year
  • Verified Owner

3 out of 5 eggsBuggy Bios, Power Sensitive, no DDR2

Pros: Small form factor, low power consumption, low heat output. 4 RS-232 serial ports is really the selling point on this board for me. This is used as an embedded controller, and it has a lot of serial devices to use. Runs Windows Server 2003 at an acceptable (usable) speed, but only as a server - not as a workstation.

Cons: This board died from plugging in a 12VDC LCD monitor to the same power supply that was running the board. There must be absolutely no power suppression or regulation on-board. Be very careful with power supplied to this board.

The comments about the buggy bios are confirmed on my device as well. When I inserted a CF card, it wouldn't boot off the hard drive any more. I had to re-set the bios with the jumpers and re-configure it all again to get it working. That's just crazy. Bios needs to have an update, but none is yet available.

1GB memory limit is not practical for Windows. Might work OK for Linux. Also, it uses the OLD EXPENSIVE DDR (NOT DDR2) memory.

The PS2 keyboard is on the opposite side of the board from the other connectors, which makes it rather inconvenient for mounting, since more holes would need to be bored for the keyboard

I don't even bother with technical support, I would expect I will never get an answer.

Other Thoughts: Newegg is great for returns and exchanges. They stand behind the products, but only for 30 days so make sure you have the memory and peripherals before you order the board.

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  • Ryan M.
  • 8/5/2008 6:15:27 AM
  • Tech Level: High
  • Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
  • Verified Owner

1 out of 5 eggsNeeds a lot of work

Pros: Very small and passively cooled.

Cons: Buggy BIOS: won't POST with various USB devices connected (HP printer, hub on monitor, etc.). Once it does boot, Debian Linux 2.6 kernels are subject to completely random kernel panics. This has already trashed the filesystem on the 16GB flash card I have in it now. Will try to install a custom kernel in the hopes that the thing works at all, but this USB issue is not acceptable. The whole point is to be an always-on PC with no monitor. I don't want to be going over to it and unplugging devices every time the thing reboots.

Other Thoughts: I've sent two emails to JetWay tech support and received no response thus far. I am not impressed at all with this product.

If you are for some reason still planning to buy it, be advised that it is indeed a 2.5mm center-positive 12VDC power connector (which isn't documented anywhere), and the mounting holes on the motherboard take a #4-40 machine screw.

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  • Paul R.
  • 7/12/2008 9:50:14 PM
  • Tech Level: High
  • Ownership: 1 week to 1 month

5 out of 5 eggsVery cute, mellow performance

Pros: Yes, it runs XP! Also Puppy and CentOS and PClinuxOS and FreeDOS/SpinRite. it is a "real PC". In a 5"x5"x1" space. With no fan and little heat. Will boot CF, IDE, USB (thumbdrive or ext-CD). No memorable driver issues. --- But it runs "gently". CPU, RAM, and video are not unlike 300-500MHz Pentium/Celerons of yesteryear, and we used those. It "can" run a GUI; but it would be much happier in text-mode command-line use. Note that the manual suggests use for "ATM" and cash register applications, and the -four- serial ports underscore "industrial" uses rather than "personal" uses. But it does work as a PC. Just gently.

Cons: VERY poor "drive" speed via the CF slot. Sustained read is not so bad, but mixed small read/write is VERY slow, on a CF device which I know is not so very slow. (Yes, I know wear-leveling.) XP shows a desktop fairly quickly, then goes numb for over a minute as it does a lot of initial background work. With most machines, this slow-down is minor; XP on CF gives major stalls now and then. Even your grandmother will notice. Speed with IDE hard-drive is tolerable in a ~~400MHz way, without the stalls for mixed read/write operations. But I was hoping for a no-moving-parts bedside PC.

Other Thoughts: IDE port is laptop-type. Works fine with one 2.5" PATA drive. Interface appears to be ATA-33. -- All headers are the sub-standard laptop spacing, not 0.1" desktop spacing. JetWay supplies 2-USB and 4-Serial connectors with correct ends, but if you break these tough luck. -- XP install to SD takes forEVER! XP install runs with ghostly colors; but XP used a generic driver which seems to work as well as the dedicated driver. -- Manual is lame. Parts are copied from a standard mobo and do not apply to this guy. English has strong oriental flavor. Information is scattered over several good diagrams. -- This chipset has an encryption engine, which is nearly useless to most users, but shows the "!" in XP Device Manager until you find the poorly labled driver on the CD. -- My "Open Box" item has a glitchy power connector (beyond the odd size); I've bodged it.

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