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Pros: It is a straight forward Case large enough to accommodate 10 x 13 inch motherboards.
I called it adequate because it contained the necessary drive space and slots to support a Quad SLI Installation.
Cons: Top Plastic case on-off switch needed to be cut away from rest of the plastic up top. The Thermal take 360mm radiator plus 6 fans in push and pull is built on top of the case with spacers plus additional 200mm fan below.
For me it's not a con so much as the cutting away of excess plastic that was present to make everything work. It is not a liquid cooling friendly case.
The two included fan controllers appear inadequate in power capacity, I will be selecting a stronger beefier 5.25 drive bay fan controller for 10 fans or more with a large support for higher wattage/amps. I already am around 20+ Fans. Hindsight tells me that those fan controllers would be helpful but did not realize the extent of the coming fan-madness.
Other Thoughts: I called this case adequate and am happy with the build so far. Coming from 3 Haf-X cases to this to conserve a few dollars I expected to run into challenges related to very large Liquid Cooling Radiators.
When I rebuild this machine someday going towards the year 2020, I am going to have to spend the few hundred dollars that are required of retail cases large enough to both support HTPX and also liquid Cooling radiators up to 480mm. I will not compromise or accept small 240's or 120's just because I am working with a case anymore.
Case builders take note.
There is a change also in the way I build gaming computers or rebuild them related to cases this year. I needed to try this case at least once to see or learn to mod for myself to make the cooling work. Don't let the 4 stars take anything away from this case if you are thinking about regular air cooling.
The Fan controllers are going to be added on. The Case fan controllers with the little knobs will probably be either cut down and removed or given little decorative job powering lights maybe. Nothing important for these.
Part of the reason is the circut board on the fan controller, big center power on off switch and so on has a huge bundle of wires over a inch wide with weight. I am going to have to mod or learn how to establish a strong point so that the power switch does not fail after several thousand boots per year. (And it will, when it does... new case time.)
Pros: These sticks run well in a HAF X Case with a MPower MSI Z77 board. Has been in operation without errors for two plus years under a cruicial Ballistix cooler.
Had two sticks from a matched DIMM 4 kit and bought two more to have 8 modules all together that will be going into a Thor V2 case under two separate Crucial Ballistix Coolers on the new motherboard designed to support 4 way SLI. It may not be the best of boards (MSI Big Bang II,) however it is one of the few that allows me to remain in DDR3 to max out the capacity to 64 gig in total while avoiding the 1600 dollar expense in equivalent DDR4 Ram which I cannot take a chance on right now.
Cons: You must have liquid cooling. To clear the space around the CPU Socket to accommodate these Ram Modules being very tall.
I am using a Corsair iH100e also for two years, the Trident RAM is going to be migrated to a Socket 2011 board that will feature a 360mm radiator cooling kit from Thermaltake so that there is room around the Socket and CPU for these Tall Modules.
I do not have any specific con, other than to state that I am frequently running Arma 2, Arma 3 and BFBC through BF3 and BF 4 without errors or drop outs and expect the same no fuss performance when the sticks go from 4 at 32 gig to 8 at 64 gig.
Other Thoughts: Ram is something that you can maximize when it is CHEAP like these Trident Rams are now. They are a decent RAM and if you can get the Bios to run them at 2400 like they are supposed to, then all is well.
Getting into DDR4 ram to try and keep up with the Joneses at 1600 dollars with similar module and overall capacity and performance simply is not worth the cost right now. The prices will and eventually must drop to around 200 dollars for a pack of 4 channel DDR4 ram to be worth buying someday.
You are building a computer, not buying a car.
The Ram has again had been provided with ballistix cruicial cooling fans and I have had nothing but joy over them.
Power supply is a Seasonic 1250 Gold x-series so that while pricey, it will not fail to provide a good quality power to the RAM as they do work inside the machine.
The ram timings are not extreme like say 5-5-5-8 or something crazy. I do not do it like that. I generally keep around 1.5 volts to 1.65 volts with nice easy traditional timings of 10 something something and something. That way I can expect it to be compatible with whatever board I throw into the new build.
Again, it will be a challenge more and more to stay with the DDR3's as all the Retailers in the USA phase it out in favor of more money and profits for the DDR4.
You don't need to worry when you have this much ram potential inside your machine. There is literally no issue such as insufficient ram space, too slow ram or too fast ram or bios XMP this or that.
Enjoy them and forget they were there. They are trouble free with the right boards.
Pros: I don't care about the M stuff, the 4 Quad x16 plus a mountain of storage approaching 6 gig/sec in read/write make it a attractive possibility when loading BF4 first and moving first before everyone else loads into Multiplayer.
Cons: The M stuff is not necessary in my humble opinion. If the goal is gaming first and above anything else, then you must allow the board to feed the 4 Video Cards in SLI.
Other Thoughts: 650 is a righteous price, a little drink will be needed before I pull the trigger on it. I had finished putting tires for the coming snow on my tahoe moneypit. So that will have to wait. I am not as rich as I used to be. Life changes like that sometimes.
I had to comment because I have never seen a board that does the three things Important to me in gaming all 40+ years of my misspent life.
The CPU, RAM and power to feed this board means you are going to need ballistix from Crucial to cool the RAM, you will want something to cool your cards, possibly a case to orient them vertically to dump the heat straight out instead of towards the CPU Area.
You will be running either Ultra Kaze or Delta Server Class Fans for cooling here, you will want a HPTX Case to accomodate all the storage or else buy 4 n 3 storage racks from Silverstone would be one option. Considering the cost of these cages, you will want to use the money towards a large, big case where you can store all you can buy and wire. 18 drives for this motherboard makes my head spin. I might have to reconsider the HAFX's solution of a metal plate with TWO ssds on each one back to back.
You want liquid cooling for any CPU you put on this board, accept nothing less than a 240 mm Corsair Extreme H100e and 4 push/pull CougarHDB High static fans.
If memory serves you go to Lowes and buy Number 6 machine screws that are Brass and 1 inch 1/16 inch long for those of you wanting to install fans on your liquid radiator.
I am currently on a M77 Mpower board in TriSLI from MSI with 3 GTX680's running BF3 at 200 max most of the time dipping into the 150's outside of Metro in the street. BF4 is more of a load going from 120 to 180ish in fighting.
This is running 120 hertz BenQ monitor with a somewhat lower resolution of around 1028x768 refresh rates 120 and higher. I know I want two more monitors, but these will have to wait until this mother board is built.
This is a gauntlet thrown down at the likes of MSI, ASUS, Gigabyte, and so many others. But the others do not seem to satisfy 4 little video card flowers to be fed in the blood of your enemies online.
I also run a Seasonic X 1250 power supply plus 8 Trident 240 pin sockets RAM all of these came from NEW EGG.
You cannot cheat with anything less than 1000 on a certified powersupply. I know that it will hurt you to pay 200-300 dollars to new egg to get one. But do it, forget about your troubles and game.
Attach a Cyberpower 1500avr 900 Battery/UPS to this computer system to protect it as you game.
You will not find any better provided you pay the extra few dollars to have it shipped to you within 2 days. Far better than having it freeze or roast in a overland truck from LA through the weekend.
This is a community service posting supporting Newegg, this motherboard and other People who are contemplating a build. I am xHeavy from BF4 and BF3, you may remember me from my AWG days as well.
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