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MICHAEL L.

MICHAEL L.

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Pretty, but requires some thought and effort

IN WIN 509 Black / Grey SECC / Tempered Glass ATX Full Tower Computer Case ATX PS2 / EPS 12V Power Supply
IN WIN 509 Black / Grey SECC / Tempered Glass ATX Full Tower Computer Case ATX PS2 / EPS 12V Power Supply

Pros: Posesses a stately beauty in full tower size accented with the glorious full-side tempered glass panel. E-ATX support, and enough room to play with all of the PCMR goodies without going for the double-wide format. Great material and build quality. Excellent and well documented items included. Flush-mount, external facing 5.25 bay without a flap-open panel, an increasingly rare feature. Also included are a pair of adjustable metal pieces that screw into the mobo-side of the case, which extend out to support the inside-end of large video cards to avoid sag. It's funny and cute, but also practical. While the cons section is quite big, it's mostly notes about airflow, and you have all the tools necessary to make this the home of a fairly beastly and cool running PC. Relevant parts: Rampage V Edition 10, with i7 6850 (OC @ 4.4 / 1.3v) Gigabyte 1080 Waterforce 8G (mild OC settings, something like 2100 @ 1v /10500) Fans: Corsair ML series, 2x 140mm (bottom and rear), 4x 120mm (side and front-top), h110i stock fans (front x2), and the gigabyte waterforce fan (integral, must unmount waterblock to replace, standard pwm connection, good quality fan though) Temps: 21C ambient, 55-62C under gaming load (VRMs and GPU backplate as hottest spots). I expect the second GPU to slot into a good thermal environment when it arrives, and once you navigate the build and airflow issues, the case only gets prettier every day.

Cons: The solid top panel design, while svelte, is surprisingly awful for airflow. A generously sized graphics card will stress the top rear exhaust fan's ability to keep radiator-warmed air from accumulating over the mobo VRMs and away from the integral top-mount drive bays. If your GPU runs a hot backplate as mine does, it will be quite worrying to the touch as well. My solution was to flip the rear fan to intake, grab some more fans and go for a less orthodox full-exhaust config on the front face (3x120mm) as well as full exhaust on the unique vents on the non-glass side (also 3x120mm). The mid-case radiator mount area (3x120mm quoted) is interesting. Note that there are no built in provisions for routing water lines past this bracket - I had to leave the top 120mm slot open to run to a front-mount radiator. Note that is *is* possible to run a corsair h110i from an E-ATX X99 chip mount location, to the very front of the case this way. It feels close to the limit, but the water pipes will reach without any significant stretching, even when mounting the radiator directly to the front of the case (with the rad fans on the inside). In any case, there is only clearance on the top of the case past this bracket, should it be filled with 3x120mm mounted options, so plan your water routes accordingly. The 'mounting points' for fans on the non-glass side are quite compromised. These X-in-Square shaped brackets that can also mount SSDs, but the X portion is quite thick, posing some problem for airflow. Additionally, the very cool looking 'hexagon outline' cutout in the side panel aren't that good for airflow either. All fans mounted on this side will need to optimize for static pressure, even without radiators on that side. Expect to run 3x Corsair ML120 PWMs at 1200rpm+ to generate similar CFM as a unobstructed Corsair ML140 PWM at 600rpm. Still in the quiet zone for these fans, but you'll need to toe your noise limit carefully to make effective use of the side panel mounts. Another note on these brackets as SSD mounts: They're quite neat at showcasing drives suspended and facing the tempered glass side. However, getting 'words up' orientation on them for Samsung 2.5" drives will require routing cables the hard/long way - the SATA end will be on the front side of the case. It is quite possible to mount the fan over an SSD on the same bracket, but it would be so blocked as to be a useless endeavor. Four of these brackets are included, and there are six positions where they will fit, 3 on the glass side, 3 on the other side, as seen in the promo pictures on the in win website. It is possible to fit PWM and SATA data+power lines straight through the X portion of the bracket themselves, even with a 120mm fan mounted. A good note about fan mount clearances - it is possible to mount a 120mm radiator+fan on the bottom position of that mid-case bracket, and still install a standard thickness (25mm) fan in the bottom mount. Clearance is tight, but it works. Depending on rad/fan thickness, you may see a bit of overhang over the bottom 140mm fan, but not so much as to pose a problem. Similarly, it is possible to mount 25mm thick fans on the non-glass side, and still mount a 120mm fan+radiator at the front of the case without clearance issues. I do not imagine a 2x140 (280mm) radiator would allow this however, so you'll need slim-format fans. It is also notable that the bottom section of the case allows a 7.48" long power supply with tight but acceptable clearance before running into a bottom-mounted 140mm fan. Clever cable routing will come into play to avoid blocking a lot of the fan's face though. Non-modular power supplies of this length...probably don't exist, but if they did, they need not apply here. Also notably poor is the lack of clearance behind the mobo. Cable management skills will definitely come into play. There are precious few points to mount zip or twist ties to the mobo plane, and clearance is such that a SATA connectors will need to be rotated flat or the side won't close - heaven help you if you need to cross other cables over that point. Even though there is no window on this side, you'll need to keep good routing practices in mind, and fight the battle of the bulge at the end.

Overall Review: There are a number of quality-of-life tweaks available in competing cases that in win would do well to emulate. Should they couple those with their build quality, ample feature list and impeccable sense of style, a case of this format will be the home of countless /r/battlestations builds.

11/27/2016

Drive failure, just under 1yr light usage

Crucial M4 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) CT256M4SSD2
Crucial M4 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) CT256M4SSD2

Pros: Effective and efficient. Performance was as expected.

Cons: Total drive failure approximately 11 months after installation. Used as an OS-and-Steam drive in a light traffic personal computer. No longer recognized by BIOS on any port.

Overall Review: Despite light usage, I loved the idea and the performance, right up to the point where it stopped working. Still willing to give SSD a chance, but probably not Crucial.