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Western Digital WD Blue WD800BB 80GB 7200 RPM 2MB Cache IDE Ultra ATA100 / ATA-6 3.5
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  • Owned For: 1 week to 1 month

Pros: They work (so far).

SMART readouts indicate a high level of health on most parameters, except for one that is the most critical.

They do not seem to have any issues with surface read writes. All sectors are healthy without any bad or reassigned. both HDDs were surface tested twice with two different utilities, and both have been low-level formatted twice specifically to stress them and try to detect potential problems.

Cons: These are not Western Digital Blue Caviar HDDs.

And, that's just plain fraudulent.

These are very clearly advertised as WD BLUE drives, but thay are in fact manufactured at least 4-5 years before Western Digital used the terms "Blue" as part of their color-code scheme.

What these are are HDDs manufactured in 2005 when they were called Western Digital Caviar drives. When I saw these advertised as Blue HDDs, I specifically expected them to be no more than about 5 years old at the most.

The "refurbished" is also misleading, at best. Refurbished usually applies to equipment that has been returned for some reason, and that it is checked and repaired as necessary to bring it up to spec.

These drives are pulls from old systems. The SMART stat for hours in service is a 7 for one of them and a 1 for the other (that's deprecated down from 100 at full health ~0 hours service to threshold of 1, which is total service hours equal to MEan Time Between FAILure, MBT) .. meaning they were powered on since 2005 more or less continuously, then pulled from systems because they are a heartbeat away from the last few hours of their life expectancy.

Also, of the two purchased, one was received with corrosion visible on various parts and pins and a layer of extremely fine dust adhering to every surface -- including the circuit board -- that had to be carefully damp-wiped and brushed off. It was semi-glued on as if it had been in a chain-smokers office for ten years and saturated with tobacco tar and smoke particles.

Other Thoughts: One HDD I expect has enough life in it for light use, perhaps for a year or three yet. Just because the SMART is hitting the threshold on MBT doesn't mean that a good, well protected HDD can't survive well beyond that MBT.

The other HDD I doubt is long for the world. Fortunately I can put it in service where it will run 'til it dies and I have a back-up waiting to take it's place. For $9, it's purpose is to extend the life of that other HDD.

But, it's incredibly disappointing to see the massive hours put on these drives. Calling these drives "refurbished" is outright fraud, as is designating them as models that were manufactured half a decade after these left the factory.

The other SMART statistics are generally between 90% and 100% of their premium health. I expect that's why they are calling them "refurbished." They just haven't deteriorated in those areas (yet).

One HDD had been through ~50 power cycles, while the other had been through ~400. I expect these were pulled from server duty once they were old, or their systems were replaced with more modern equipment.

These are a major gamble under these conditions. Due to their length of service combined with high health stats in most categories, they do have the potential to run another 10,000 hours. A "burned-in" HDD like these could just keep running and running, especially if babied along and well-cared for.

However, I was also expecting HDDs that were actual Western Digital Blue drives, which would have had half these hours on them. That's an inexcusable deception.

I am also left wondering who is the actual "refurbishing" entity. All links lead to the Western Digital websites, but I actually expect these are pulls by a third party vendor that is not identified anywhere in thy chain of custody and purchase.

Will not be buying again.

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ORICO H727RK-U3-BK 7 Port USB3.0 HUB with Premium 12V/2.5A Power Adapter (Black)
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  • Owned For: 1 month to 1 year

2 out of 5 eggs do NOT buy - keep looking 09/20/2014

This review is from: ORICO H727RK-U3-BK 7 Port USB3.0 HUB with Premium 12V/2.5A Power Adapter (Black)

Pros: It works, sort of.

USB flash drives work fine, both USB 3.0 and USB 2.

This powered hub works with USB 3.0 and USB 2 connections from computers & laptops.

WHEN it works (see below), the speeds seem to be at specification given other system factors. Using a performance USB 3 flash drive on a powerful system and transferring to & from a performance SSD, this hub did not appear to bottleneck USB 3 speeds.

HOWEVER .... and it's a BIG however ...... SEE CONS:

Cons: I have my doubts that this is actually a powered hub. The power supply that came with this seems to work, as I tested it with other devices When plugged into this hub, it lights up as if it is supplying power (also, draws ~3-4 watts of power with nothing else plugged into it, according to my Kill A Watt meter).

The hub itself seems to not tap any of that power to send needed electricity to devices that draw on it. This is a TOTAL FAIL of the entire USB 3.0 specification.

To be clear, normal flash drives plug in and work. I tested about 20 of them, a large mix of manufacturers, sizes and ~2/3 USB 3 and ~1/3 USB 2.

Also, if I use a powered external enclosure for an HHD or SSD, they USUALLY work. Occasionally they will not be recognized when plugged in, but re-plugging them in USUALLY allows them to connect. In the one or two cases that did not work, a reboot of the system was needed and then they worked as they should.

HOWEVER: _unpowered_ external enclosures for HDDs (2.5" notebook HDDs) and SSDs refuse to work on this hub. I have a mix of about ten different notebook HDDs and another half dozen SSDs of various manufacture.

IT IS NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE to get any of these to work on this hub .... which is, by the way, the ENTIRE REASON I bought a POWERED HUB. I knew these devices require extra juice, so I specifically bought a POWERED HUB to supply the requir4ed electricity to run these devices.

And, this hub cannot perform that function.

Every single HDD and SSD that did not work on this hub do, in fact, work on another powered hub (Tek Republic TUH-3400) which I had to but specifically because this Orico hub cannot perform its basic, required function. Also, every one of those devices work when plugged directly into a computer, and in one case a HooToo USB 3 add-on card (powered internally with a molex connector off the computer power supply).

Oh, and I use two different 2.5" enclosures, one of them Orico, with identical results.

The inability to provide the power for an SSD is just ludicrous. It is a jaw-dropping FAIL considering how ridiculously little power an SSD requires. I even get these to work on unpowered notebook hubs (Tek Republic TUH-300, for one example). They even work over USB 2 (Rosewill RHB-320R powered USB 2 hub, for one example).

Really, GET THIS: I can access my notebook mechanical HDDs over a USB 2 connection (powered or unpowerd) using my external enclosures. But, this Orico powered USB 3 hub FAIL miserably.

Just a jaw-dropping, clown show of FAIL.

Other complaints in the reviews warn about very tight connections that stress both this product and the items plugged into it. Yes, I also am experiencing that same issue with most items. A few plug/unplug easily, but most are very tight and have to be removed with care to avoid unnecessary stress on teh connections.

Nitpick: the LED activity lights are about 3x or 4x brighter than necessary. When 6 or 7 are lit up at once, very

Other Thoughts: 2 eggs because I have it connected and use it to manage data across flash drives and POWERED external enclosures. So far, it seems to be able to handle that.

I rarely ever review anything before six months. Often I wait a year.

However, the FAIL is so strong on this product, I felt obligated to publish a review after only ~6 weeks.

I ran it through its paces a lot in that time, specifically to try and trouble-shoot it and see if there was something wrong on my end. After buying another powered hub for comparison -- which works perfectly as advertised and expected -- and running tests across six different Windows PCs and three different laptops, I can confidently say the problem is with this Orico hub.

Unfortunately.

I do have a number of Orico products, and very little to complain about those other products. So, this is a pretty huge black mark because it's a fairly expensive FAILure. Will be approaching Orico products with much more caution in the future. I usually allow three strikes or over ~$50 under most circumstances before I abandon a particular brand ... so, Orico, you're most of the way there. In particular because I bought this product in a rush because I needed it to work, and it didn't and caused me quite a bit of grief.

Given that the other reviews also list several issues (some of which I also experienced), I think the design of this particular model is just bad, and poorly implemented.

The only reason I'm keeping it is the limited functionality that I am able to put it to,

AND, I want to see if anything else starts going wrong wit hit as I continue to keep it in service. If it degrades no further, part of my confidence in Orico products will be somewhat restored. If this product continues to degrade (such as ports dropping out, the soldering issue already mentioned in earlier reviews, etc.), I will then have even less confidence in the brand when I am shopping for solutions in the future.

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Coboc CY-U3-AAMF-6-BK 6ft SuperSpeed 5Gbps USB 3.0  A Male to A Female Extension Cable,Gold Plated,Black,M-F
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  • Owned For: more than 1 year

Pros: sturdy build/heavy cable
6 ft. length
all black
works exactly as it should to full USB 3.0 spec

Cons: none

some people might not like how stiff the cable is, but it's not horribly so and is pretty much standard for USB 3.0

Other Thoughts: I have half a dozen of these now in use in various places. Some are on USB 2 ports, others are on USB 3.0 ports, and they get moved around at need. They always move data at maximum performance for the port they are on.

I use several hubs on these (also both on USB 2 & 3.0), my favorite being the Tek Republic TUH-300 USB 3.0 4-port hubs (NewEgg Item=N82E16817659002). I connect a couple dozen devices over this combo, many USB flash drives of 2 & 3.0 spec I've collected over the years, half a dozen external HDDs and SSDs that are also both USB & 3.0 spec, and in some cases wireless dongles for mice & keyboards.

The 6 ft. cable is fantastic to place these hubs on my desktop and reach the back of my computers. Often there is an extra foot or more available, so I coil it around the base of my monitor stands for stability & convenience.

By now I've replaced nearly all my USB 2 extension cables with these. In some cases I connect a USB 2 cable (I have a few 6 ft, & 10 ft.) to the computer and then daisy chain one of these USB 3.0 cables to it for total extension of 12 to 16 feet. Data transfer is flawless at max specification for the port every time.

I've connected SSDs and 2.5" notebook spin HDDs in external enclosures to this cable (through the hub, which is unpowered) and they have always worked on the power provided over the USB 3.0 port. I don't even remember data transfers failing when connected to USB 2 ports.

Very happy with this product; I just wish they would charge a single shipping rate when I buy multiple cables in one order. Kind of a ripoff to multiply the shipping charge by three when I buy three cables and they're all in the same package and it doesn't cost them any more to ship than a single cable. that is actually very irritating ... but that is a vendor scam and has nothing to do with the manufacturer and the quality of the product.

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