Joined on 03/29/08
Pretty Nice Case
Pros: Lots of room, even my baseball mitt size hands have no problem plenty of variation of HD space- I placed my on bottom with direct fans and left the front fan free modifications- you're not just tied into building in one style and some pieces can be pulled Definitely don't have to worry about jamming a video card in Water cooling setup was pretty easy even for a novice like me (usually aircooled builds) due to the space
Cons: Fans- It may be me, but the fans seemed pretty weak. Glass panel on left side. Can't seem to figure out why they would allow viewing of your most cluttered area Fan Controller/Led Controller- For the price, could of gone with something more useful. A temp controller would of been better. Fast/Medium/Slow- could of gotten on a cheap case LED's- Still getting used to the system, but not much control of them. I really don't use them other to highlight, but others may want more. Plastic trays and connectors- Feel flimsy and weak at times. I feel like I have to handle them with kid gloves. You're not really supposed to treat computer parts rough, but the feel of the pieces made me feel that I had to be even gentler then normal.
Overall Review: Saw some of the comments, and was prepared when the case arrived. Sturdily packed at the top and bottom, but there is no real protection for the side panels from a blow. Also saw people comment on the ability to see the cables from the left side, so I went to the hobby store and had a large sheet of silver-grey contact paper ready when the case arrived. I basically lined the inside of the left panel, and it blocked the view of the wires but also kept any led light from shining through. Not sure how long it will last before it starts drying out on the edges and work inward, but will keep an eye on it. As to the case itself, be prepared for the size when it arrives. This case sits at keyboard tray level on my desk. But as it sits off to the side, not a real concern. Installation was a breeze. A MB tray would of made it far easier, but it didn't slow me down much. You have to pay attention to the wires though. My booklet didn't tell me what all the fan and led connectors were for, turns out they are extra as the ones with the case are already set up and the controller connected to the power. So you'll already have leads to connect to if you want to add extra fans or LED's. Items going inside besides MB and power: 1080TI- water cooled 1 M2 on MB 4- 4tb storage drives on bottom rack Blueray drive 240mm water cooler for CPU A con I didn't mention- Looking at all the space left over is making me itch to fill the case up.... Looking at putting a 2nd 1080 in and maybe populating the upper slots with HD's as I have a power supply to run it. But I do know I have the ability to expand and modify as needs change. Edit: 1 1/2 months of ownership Some things that I should mention now that I've had this for awhile and have gotten used to it. If you're planning on running liquid cooling, you may want to go with a build your own setup if you plan to do both the cpu and 2 or more video cards. I bought a cpu cooler and 2 1080TI cards already premade. I could get the CPU cooler radiator in on the top, but in doing so lost use of the top bay. Even looking at it, trying to mount it on the back was an automatic waste of time as there is no space. As an additional problem, had to move the radiator forward as the smaller power connector for the motherboard ended up being covered by the radiator fans. The back, only had room for 1 of the 1080 TI's cooling radiators. I tried to run the 2nd TI down to the lower HD bay and replace the fan there and waste some of the HD space but it didn't work as it didn't get enough airflow to keep the card cooled.. So second card was taken out. So my updated conclusion. Still a pretty nice case, plenty of room, but limited on choices you can do with it. Looking at other cases to transfer into that give me the option to run the twin cards.
Pros: Good sound, Easy setup, mic problems reported by others wasn't present on my set, long cord, splitter set included to keep headset and speakers connected
Cons: No real cons- just nitpicks Microphone sometimes needed adjusting to get connected. Amplifier I needed to add a velcro pad to it to keep it from falling off the desk at times when moving around
Overall Review: I ended up with problems about a month after buying it. I connect and disconnected this multiple times to keep it away from the kids (people with 2 kids under 6 would understand.) 2 days ago, I reconnected and turned on vent while logging in. I had no mic and some of the sound was missing. I turned off vent so I wouldn't blast my buddies ears off, disconnected the wire connector and looked inside, 4 of the 9 pins were broken off and stuck in the female end. Looking at a few other forums, I saw others that connected and disconnected frequently had the same problem. I contacted Turtle Beach support, and received an email back saying that the pins don't just come out (DUH!!!!) and I must of been forcing it. Some of my older computer equipment is still pin based and some of my older home theater setup as well. I'm well versed on taking 1-1/2 seconds to 2 seconds making sure it's lined up properly before making the connection. I'm looking around for a better connecting set now...
Pros: Worked right out of the box without Bios Flash to get M2 drive working
Cons: I thought I could get more out of it, but it's my fault as I was rushed to get a replacement ordered so didn't research properly.
Overall Review: It'd probably be a good fit for a midsize computer build. The board I had originally ordered for my build arrived DOA and they didn't have any replacements in stock. So in a rush, I looked for a board with M2 capabilities that met my shortened budget (as I was waiting for the refund) and was got caught up in the property tax payoff and house payment cash crush so price mattered. It worked when I installed it in the case, hooked up the connection, installed the M2, then put the CPU/ram/video card on. Then plugged it in and it worked off the M2 after I set up the bios. The problems I have with it are that it has plenty of SATA slots available, but you lose 2 of them if you install both M2 cards right off the bat. And I was installing this in a full size case with 2 hard drive readers and a Blue Ray drive, That meant I was already short one Sata right off the bat and didn't have room for my backup drive or raid storage drives. I ended up taking the board and installing it into a media center tower I built for music and movies. Never did get to run games on it. So take my cons/others with a grain of salt as most of the issues were with me not paying attention to what the board had on it. If you plan on running a "heavy" system with hard drives and extras, you may want to look elsewhere. As of right now, it is running fine as a media server for both tv/speaker system as well as wifi network access so I can listen to my music library while working in the yard.
Pros: Upgraded from previous model and dropped about 5 deg.
Cons: Didn't build a RGB system so it was wasted, but I didn't pay attention on it before purchasing or would of went with a plain jane. Not sure if it's just me, but most of the screw holes for the radiator didn't want to tighten up even to finger tight. They go all the way in then spin loosely. They hold, but not too comfortable about it. 3 of the holes did tighten down to finger tight and a little more so going to have to trust it. Guide is a little weak on the standoffs. Ended up going to the internet to make sure as I'm someone who likes to mess with the CPU area only once. Webpage sucks on finding info easily for those who want to double check info.
Overall Review: Installed this on a full tower case, found out it would of been far better to use a custom built water cooling system instead of prebuilts. But as it was my first liquid cooled build for both CPU and twin GPUs, I learned quite a few lessons during the process. For one, a full tower doesn't always mean you'll be able to fit every prebuilt liquid cooled item into the system. The CPU cooler, once I got the standoffs figured out, went on pretty easily though I had a heck of a time getting the radiator to stay on until I found some holes that would actually take the weight of the radiator until other screws went in (one of the cons.)
Pros: Lots of room, Hard drives sit sideways making connections easier to hide, cooler temps then my midtower, leaves plenty of space between video cards and hard drives.
Cons: Microphone and Headset jacks on to don't work (never use them anyway so I'm not worried about it...), top cover over power button sorta flimsy (I removed mine, easily done since I'm always using the esata), fan didn't fit my controller (knew it before I bought, so I already bought some compatible fans), 2nd hard drive fan needs better instructions on how to install, have a usb hub ready for some wireless usb/bluetooth devices or install on top panel (I had trouble staying connected on keyboard/mouse and printer while plugged in the back.)
Overall Review: This is the last time I buy a case without measuring it out first. I knew it was going to be larger then my old soprano, but I didn't expect the size I got. But that was my fault. Only had a few problems setting it up, mainly on the inside hard drive fan, the instructions were a little vague. Otherwise, it was a piece of cake. Instead of leaving 2 drive bays open to leave room for the video card power connections like I had to do before , I can run 4 hard drives again without jamming the video card power cables. Running cables was real easy though I had to buy a power extension for the bottom 2 hard drives. Hiding cables was a snap and gave me a very clean looking case, the only cables really visible is the mb power cables All in all, I have a bigger, cleaner looking, easily maintained, and cooler running system then I did before. 1 thought- Make sure you have plenty of room to build your system with this case!!!!!