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ECS Liva 4GB/64GB Mini / Booksize Barebone System

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  • Intel Bay Trail-M
  • 2GB DDR3L RAM installed

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Learn more about the ECS (EliteGroup) Liva 4GB/64GB

General

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Brand
ECS
Model
Liva 4GB/64GB

CPU Supported

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CPU Type
Intel Bay Trail-M

Memory Supported

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Memory slot
2GB DDR3L RAM installed

Audio

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Onboard Audio
Realtek ALC282
Channel
2 Channel

Communications

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LAN
Realtek RTL8111G
Max LAN Speed
10/100/1000Mbps
Wireless LAN
By NGFF Card:
WiFi 802.11a/b/g/n + Bluetooth 4.0

Front Panel Ports

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Front Audio Ports
1 x Combo Audio Jack

Back Panel Ports

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HDMI
1
VGA
1 x D-sub
Rear USB
1 x USB 2.0
1 x USB 3.0
RJ45
1
Other Rear Ports
1 x Power Connector (Micro USB Port)

Features

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Features
32GB eMMC Storage

Windows Based OS
-With the anticipation and excitement to have Windows-Based Mini PC, LIVA is proud to bring you the latest Windows 8.1 OS to ensure you a pleasant user experience.
(Windows 7 and Ubuntu will be available soon)

Dual Graphics Displays
-With HDMI and D-Sub support, LIVA provides not only two independent output displays, offering a wise choice of home entertainment or multi-display applications, but also wide coverage support of both digital and analog displays.

Power Saving
-LIVA only uses about as much power as just a light bulb!

Mobility-Walking PC
-Seriously, there is nothing comparable to the mobility of LIVA Mini PC Kit. Based on low power consumption of Intel Bay Trail processor, LIVA can be booted up and operated simply by a power bank.

40-Second Set Up
-With screw-free design of LIVA Mini PC Kit, users can easily self-assemble their own PC and finish all the processes within 40 seconds. And more importantly, it’s so fun and easy!

Additional Information

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Date First Available
May 16, 2014
Warranty, Returns, And Additional Information
  • Warranty
  • Limited Warranty period (parts): 1 year
  • Limited Warranty period (labor): 1 year
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  • Return Policies
    • Return for refund within: 30 days
    • Return for replacement within: 30 days
  • This item is covered by Newegg.com's Standard Return Policy.
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
Verified Owner
1/ 5
Flakier than a head-full of psoriasis 11/12/2014 11:41:16 PM

Pros: The stats looked good, if it had worked as advertised it would have been great for my purposes. Low power usage and silent.

Cons: The '40 second' assembly is a joke, the "Quick Installation Guide" was so vague as to be almost useless, & I had to web search how to put the thing together. Specifically, the antenae for the wifi/bluetooth would not snap in to their slot, at least not with my big finders, so I ended up trying to use electrical tape to attach them. The device should have come pre--assembled, there was no reason to have the consumer wrestle with it.

Anyway, I could have spared myself the trouble. When I turned the unit on I could not navigate the BIOS 95% of the time. The unit would be unresponsive to key strokes, except Control+Alt+Delete, which would reboot the box. The unit would not boot either from a USB DVDRW nor a USB stick formatted with Kubuntu 14.04 and Ubuntu 14.10 most of the time. Sometimes it wouldn't even light up a monitor. I finally managed to install Ubuntu 14.10 on it, by dint of sheer OCD cussedness but it would freeze up within a few minutes or simply shut itself off. And most of the time rebooting the machine would not light up the monitor.

Neither the wifi nor the bluetooth were recognized by Ubuntu, I'm not sure if that is because I couldn't secure the antennas or not. But the system was so unstable I didn't try hunting down other drivers for it. The couple of times I successfully booted it into Ubuntu after installation it came up in about 25 seconds, but sometimes it would just give me a black screen for many minutes & I'd let it thrash away and come back to find that it had finally booted. But as soon as I interacted with the computer it crashed.

Overall Review: I tried everything I could think of with this unit. But it was so flakey and random I can't tell you for certain what "worked" and what didn't. Maybe I got a defective one, some folks seemed to have a better experience. It is getting RMAed.

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Manufacturer Response:
We are sorry to hear about the issues you had with your Liva. For the Ubuntu issues please refer to the Liva FAQ at the link below.

Thank you for your feedback. It is appreciated. We need your feedback in order to improve the quality of our products and service.

If you have any questions or concerns regarding this or any ECS products, please contact us. We are here to help.

I or any of my team members here at technical support will be able to help you.
Our hours are Mon-Fri 9am-6pm PST.

Thank you,
Andy
Phone# 1-510-456-9836
Email: andy_K@ecsusa.com
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
Verified Owner
5/ 5
Great Micro PC 7/16/2014 7:30:43 AM

Pros: Small size, acceptable performance, low cost, silent

Cons: Must physically install the wireless/bluetooth module prior to use. The drivers were challenging to install. Uses the Microsoft UEFI BIOS which makes it impossible to create Ghosts or backups (not ECSs fault, that's a Microsoft issue).

Overall Review: I was looking for a micro PC to pair with a large touch screen monitor and this was the perfect fit. The device is surprisingly small and totally silent.

The first thing you have to do is install the wireless IO module and attach the two antennae to the inside of the enclosure. It wasn't that difficult but I think this really should be done already when the product is shipped.

I ran Windows 8.1 setup from the Microsoft web site and selected to put the installer on a flash drive. Then I downloaded all the drivers from the ECS web site and put them in a directory on the flash drive.

I booted from the flash drive and the Windows 8.1 installation was flawless. I updated the firmware and then started installing the drivers. Most of them installed but the UART, Bluetooth and Serial IO drivers failed. This left six unknown devices in Device Manager and no functioning wireless support. I ended up right clicking each unknown device, selected update driver and then pointed it to the entire driver directory. It found several GPIO drivers and a UART (without which the Broadcom enumerator doesn't work and won't see the wireless card). All devices successfully installed.

The system works quite well and Windows 8.1 is fairly usable with just a touch interface. The performance was on par with a low-end laptop and boots up surprisingly fast. I installed Office 2013 with no problem and ran Windows Update to get all the software patches.

So now I have a large touch screen 'tablet' running Windows 8.1. There's about 9GB of storage left on the internal drive but it's easy to add a 64GB USB micro flash drive if you need more storage.

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Anonymous
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
Verified Owner
1/ 5
Update to my previous review 7/11/2014 2:38:59 PM

Pros: unique design

Cons: I'm fully aware of the EFI only bios. I even tried booting to a GPT formatted flash drive with Windows 8. Also tried a old school DOS boot just to attempt flashing the bios (which was already at the latest version) but if refused to load anything. Newegg also just confirmed this issue under RMA return.

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Ownership: less than 1 day
Verified Owner
1/ 5
DOA 7/10/2014 3:11:03 PM

Pros: Cheap

Cons: DOA, power light comes on, no video.

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Manufacturer Response:
We are sorry to hear about the POST issues you are experiencing.

If you haven't already, please contact us. We would like to work with you in finding a solution.

I or any of my team members here at technical support will be able to help you.
Our hours are Mon-Fri 9am-6pm PST.

Thank you,
Andy
Phone# 1-510-456-9836
Email: andy_K@ecsusa.com
Anonymous
Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
Verified Owner
3/ 5
Good design, bad bios 7/4/2014 8:46:43 AM

Pros: TINY! Fanless. Includes RAM and 32GB drive plus wifi/bluetooth card.

Cons: Internal board appears to be defective despite me wearing an anti-static wristband during assembly. PC will only boot to bios; will not prompt/load to install ANY OS. Tried 3 different bootable flash drives plus external usb optical drive; all with known working Windows 8 and Linux distros. Also tried swapping usb ports, using powered usb hub, different keyboard/mouse combos, changing boot order in bios, disabling secure boot, clearing cmos, and boot override (in bios and with F7).

Overall Review: Takes more than 40sec to assemble (may need tweezers due to antenna wires and small size). ECS does it again: good hardware crippled by poor bios. Bios stuck in UEFI (its actually greyed out) but no mouse support and limited options. Never got to see Windows or Ubuntu on it. Returned it.

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Manufacturer Response:
We are sorry to hear about the installation issues you experienced. Windows 8 and Linux are EFI aware OS and do install correctly. OS installation instructions can be found in chapter 4 of the users manual. We realize that you have already returned your item but please be aware that we are here to assist you or answer any question you may have.

I or any of my team members here at technical support will be able to help you.
Our hours are Mon-Fri 9am-6pm PST.

Thank you,
Andy
Phone# 1-510-456-9836
Email: andy_K@ecsusa.com
Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
Verified Owner
5/ 5
ecs liva 7/3/2014 6:01:21 PM

Pros: awesome embedded system. just what i needed for a power point/office productivity box, lightweight desktop solution, thin client, windows 8.1 & debian linux builds. runs openelec with some tweaking & config. it streams nicely in xbmc, even hd content over the wan . runs flash based games in hd w/o issue. doesnt get hot when running 1080p video. and it makes a good jukebox.

Cons: storage capacity. in windows 8.1 i disabled updates and also had to disable the hibernation file in order to save disk space. it also has an m.2 slot. i have not tried this because it is occupied by the bluetooth/wifi combo card, but i think it may support a m.2 ssd. (i will follow up with this after testing). downside to that, you lose wifi & bt.

Overall Review: it needs a bigger onboard ssd to make up for the lack of a second m.2 slot for drive expansion.
the video drivers are fine. contrary to what others are saying. perhaps because im not running anything on the vga adapter is why i have not encountered any issues. i ran it in dual screen mode w/o problems on 2 vizio 19" 1080p razor hdtvs. no issues.

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Ownership: 1 day to 1 week
Verified Owner
3/ 5
The angry inch 6/3/2014 2:53:01 PM

Pros: + small
+ a capable little PC for the basics
+ Windows or Linux compatible
+ good driver support if you use W8/8.1 or Ubuntu
+ easy to build

Cons: - not a good Steam game streaming client, even at 480p.

Overall Review: I really want to find a use for this little thing, but I don't need another video streaming device and its just not capable enough to deliver a good Steam game streaming experience, so I'm sending it back.

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Ownership: 1 week to 1 month
Verified Owner
4/ 5
Update to Original Review 6/1/2014 7:20:20 PM

Pros: This is an update to my original post.

MythTV
LiveTV works
MPEG2 VAAPI works
H264 VAAPI works

No more stuttering after tweaking a bit.

Cons: Video doesn't resume after turning monitor/TV off and then back on.

Overall Review: So this is an update to my original review. I read a few posts on the internet about the underscan issue and they all suggested that I should change the picture size setting on the TV. Samsung TV's are set for 16:9. I changed it to "Fit Screen" and like magic, all of the video issues with stuttering went away. TV now plays fine, Lord of the Rings, hobbit all play well now. I reset the mythtv sizing back to 0 for all 4 settings to make it go back to full screen. now its truly capable of acting as a full mythv box. There are two issues that are not resolved. First, even after changing the scaling method, mpeg2/h264 will stutter a frame once in a while when the on screen menu is up. Its not bad at all so its a very minor issue. My guess is this is something in MythTV itself. I tried XBMC on ubuntu as well and the A/V sync was much more consistent than MythTV.


The second issue is the worst. When you turn the monitor/TV off, the pc still runs but when you turn the monitor/TV back on the HDMI connection does not re-establish leaving you with a machine that refuses to display a screen. I know this is fault and not mythTV as it happens outside of MythTV as well. Really wish there was a GUI to configure the video card settings like AMD/Nvidia. Just as I mentioned in my previous post, The drivers for the video card need maturity to close these issues. I'm still researching and trying new options of the video card by tinkering with the kernel boot options and will update you if i solve the resume problem. I'm still happy with the box but i think i will hold off until they can either get their drivers hashed out or there is a better option for mythtv before buying another one for my other rooms.

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