I ordered the GT70 2OC which I am returning due to it was just to slow for some reason and it didn't say to connect to the internet when adding the start up software.
This one wasn't available when I ordered the 20C.
The 20D has a better Graphics card and 4 gig of ram instead of 3 gig like the 20C.
As far as the rebate it showed up as instant savings in check out.
But I am not sure about the DVD drive. It just says BD reader.
And needing to hook up to the internet before full setup doesn't sound right?

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I got one of these in December. I was concerned about the BD reader but it is a full function read write CD   DVD and reads BD.
It is fast and came ready to go with no internet issues. So far a good machine. The machine will need to access the internet to gain acces to all new and relevant updates for Win and the MSI software drivers etc. I believe this is normal these days. Just be wary of what you click as always.

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