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Velztorm Aciex 3D Custom Built Gaming Desktop PC (AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D, AMD Radeon RX 9060 XT, 32GB DDR5, 2TB PCIe SSD, 360mm AIO, 1000W PSU, WiFi 6E, Bluetooth 5.2, RJ-45, 1 Display Port, Win 11 Pro)
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Velztorm Lux Lyte Custom Built Gaming Desktop PC (AMD Ryzen 9 - 5900X, AMD Radeon RX 9060 XT, 32GB DDR4, 2TB PCIe SSD, 360mm AIO, 1000W PSU, WiFi 5, Bluetooth 5.0, RJ-45, 1 Display Port, Win 11 Pro)
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Velztorm Lux Lyte Custom Built Gaming Desktop PC (AMD Ryzen 9 - 5900X, AMD Radeon RX 9060 XT, 32GB DDR4, 1TB PCIe SSD, 360mm AIO, 1000W PSU, WiFi 5, Bluetooth 5.0, RJ-45, 1 Display Port, Win 11 Home)
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Velztorm Minty Frog Custom Built Gaming Desktop PC (AMD Ryzen 7 5700X, AMD Radeon RX 9060 XT, 32GB DDR4, 2TB PCIe SSD, RGB Fans, 240mm AIO, 850W PSU, WiFi 5, Bluetooth 5.0, RJ-45, Win 11 Pro)
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Velztorm Minty Frog Custom Built Gaming Desktop PC (AMD Ryzen 7 5700X, AMD Radeon RX 9060 XT, 32GB DDR4, 2TB PCIe SSD, RGB Fans, 240mm AIO, 850W PSU, WiFi 5, Bluetooth 5.0, RJ-45, Win 11 Pro)
  • GPU/VGA Type: AMD Radeon RX 9060 XT
  • Memory Capacity: 32GB DDR4
  • SSD: 2 TB
  • Operating System: Windows 11 Pro
  • Model #: VELZ0096-ME2432942
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Velztorm Bubble Cow Custom Built Gaming Desktop PC (AMD Ryzen 7 5700X, AMD Radeon RX 9060 XT, 32GB DDR4, 2TB PCIe SSD, RGB Fans, 240mm AIO, 850W PSU, WiFi 5, Bluetooth 5.0, RJ-45, Win 11 Home)
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Velztorm Cinnamon Fox Custom Built Gaming Desktop PC (AMD Ryzen 7 5700X, AMD Radeon RX 9060 XT, 32GB DDR4, 2TB PCIe SSD, RGB Fans, 240mm AIO, 850W PSU, WiFi 5, Bluetooth 5.0, RJ-45, Win 11 Pro)
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Velztorm Cinnamon Fox Custom Built Gaming Desktop PC (AMD Ryzen 7 5700X, AMD Radeon RX 9060 XT, 32GB DDR4, 2TB PCIe SSD, RGB Fans, 240mm AIO, 850W PSU, WiFi 5, Bluetooth 5.0, RJ-45, Win 11 Pro)
  • GPU/VGA Type: AMD Radeon RX 9060 XT
  • Memory Capacity: 32GB DDR4
  • SSD: 2 TB
  • Operating System: Windows 11 Pro
  • Model #: VELZ0099-ME2436382
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Velztorm Bubble Cow Custom Built Gaming Desktop PC (AMD Ryzen 7 5700X, AMD Radeon RX 9060 XT, 32GB DDR4, 2TB PCIe SSD, RGB Fans, 240mm AIO, 850W PSU, WiFi 5, Bluetooth 5.0, RJ-45, Win 11 Pro)
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Velztorm Bubble Cow Custom Built Gaming Desktop PC (AMD Ryzen 7 5700X, AMD Radeon RX 9060 XT, 32GB DDR4, 2TB PCIe SSD, RGB Fans, 240mm AIO, 850W PSU, WiFi 5, Bluetooth 5.0, RJ-45, Win 11 Pro)
  • GPU/VGA Type: AMD Radeon RX 9060 XT
  • Memory Capacity: 32GB DDR4
  • SSD: 2 TB
  • Operating System: Windows 11 Pro
  • Model #: VELZ0097-ME2436762
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Velztorm Frosty Dragon Custom Built Gaming Desktop PC (AMD Ryzen 7 5700X, AMD Radeon RX 9060 XT, 32GB DDR4, 2TB PCIe SSD, RGB Fans, 240mm AIO, 850W PSU, WiFi 5, Bluetooth 5.0, RJ-45, Win 11 Pro)
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Velztorm Cinnamon Fox Custom Built Gaming Desktop PC (AMD Ryzen 7 5700X, AMD Radeon RX 9060 XT, 32GB DDR4, 2TB PCIe SSD, RGB Fans, 240mm AIO, 850W PSU, WiFi 5, Bluetooth 5.0, RJ-45, Win 11 Home)
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Velztorm Minty Frog Custom Built Gaming Desktop PC (AMD Ryzen 7 5700X, AMD Radeon RX 9060 XT, 32GB DDR4, 2TB PCIe SSD, RGB Fans, 240mm AIO, 850W PSU, WiFi 5, Bluetooth 5.0, RJ-45, Win 11 Home)
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Velztorm Lux Lyte Custom Built Gaming Desktop PC (AMD Ryzen 9 - 5900X, AMD Radeon RX 9060 XT, 32GB DDR4, 1TB PCIe SSD, 360mm AIO, 1000W PSU, WiFi 5, Bluetooth 5.0, RJ-45, 1 Display Port, Win 11 Pro)
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Velztorm Praetix Custom Built Gaming Desktop PC (Intel i9-14900K, AMD Radeon RX 9060 XT, 32GB DDR5, 2TB PCIe SSD, RGB Fans, 360mm AIO, 1000W PSU, WiFi 6, Bluetooth 5.2, RJ-45, Win 11 Pro)
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Velztorm Praetix Custom Built Gaming Desktop PC (Intel i9-14900K, AMD Radeon RX 9060 XT, 32GB DDR5, 2TB PCIe SSD, RGB Fans, 360mm AIO, 1000W PSU, WiFi 6, Bluetooth 5.2, RJ-45, Win 11 Pro)
  • GPU/VGA Type: AMD Radeon RX 9060 XT
  • Memory Capacity: 32GB DDR5
  • SSD: 2 TB
  • Operating System: Windows 11 Pro
  • Model #: ME-242019334480
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AVGPC Mini-X Gaming PC - Ryzen 5 5600X, AMD Radeon RX 9060 8GB, 16GB 3200MHz DDR4 RAM, 500GB NVME M.2 SSD, Hyper 212 Cooler, Wifi/AC, black Case, Windows 11
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AVGPC Mini-X Gaming PC - Ryzen 5 5600X, AMD Radeon RX 9060 8GB, 16GB 3200MHz DDR4 RAM, 500GB NVME M.2 SSD, Hyper 212 Cooler, Wifi/AC, black Case, Windows 11
  • CPU Type: AMD Ryzen 5000
  • GPU/VGA Type: AMD Radeon RX 9060
  • CPU Name: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X
  • Memory Capacity: 16GB DDR4
  • Model #: AV-Mini-X-56X-9060-B
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Velztorm Praetix Custom Built Gaming Desktop PC (Intel i9-14900K, AMD Radeon RX 9060 XT, 32GB DDR5, 2TB PCIe SSD, RGB Fans, 360mm AIO, 1000W PSU, WiFi 6, Bluetooth 5.2, RJ-45, Win 11 Home)
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Velztorm Praetix Custom Built Gaming Desktop PC (Intel i9-14900K, AMD Radeon RX 9060 XT, 32GB DDR5, 2TB PCIe SSD, RGB Fans, 360mm AIO, 1000W PSU, WiFi 6, Bluetooth 5.2, RJ-45, Win 11 Home)
  • GPU/VGA Type: AMD Radeon RX 9060 XT
  • Memory Capacity: 32GB DDR5
  • SSD: 2 TB
  • Operating System: Windows 11 Home
  • Model #: VELZ0076-ME2420192
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AVGPC Mini-X Gaming PC - Ryzen 5 5600X, AMD Radeon RX 9060 8GB, 16GB 3200MHz DDR4 RAM, 1TB NVME M.2 SSD, Hyper 212 Cooler, Wifi/AC, black Case, Windows 11
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AVGPC Mini-X Gaming PC - Ryzen 5 5600X, AMD Radeon RX 9060 8GB, 16GB 3200MHz DDR4 RAM, 1TB NVME M.2 SSD, Hyper 212 Cooler, Wifi/AC, black Case, Windows 11
  • GPU/VGA Type: AMD Radeon RX 9060
  • CPU Name: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X
  • Memory Capacity: 16GB DDR4
  • SSD: 1 TB
  • Model #: AV-Mini-X-56X-96-1T-B
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Velztorm Praetix Custom Built Gaming Desktop PC (Intel i9-14900K, GeForce RTX 5070 Ti, 32GB DDR5, 2TB PCIe SSD, RGB Fans, 360mm AIO, 1000W PSU, WiFi 6, Bluetooth 5.2, RJ-45, Win 11 Home)
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Velztorm Praetix Custom Built Gaming Desktop PC (Intel i9-14900K, GeForce RTX 5070 Ti, 32GB DDR5, 2TB PCIe SSD, RGB Fans, 360mm AIO, 1000W PSU, WiFi 6, Bluetooth 5.2, RJ-45, Win 11 Home)
  • GPU/VGA Type: GeForce RTX 5070 Ti
  • Memory Capacity: 32GB DDR5
  • SSD: 2TB
  • Operating System: Windows 11 Home
  • Model #: VELZ0076-ME2283982
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Velztorm Lux Lyte Custom Built Gaming Desktop PC (AMD Ryzen 9 - 5900X, AMD Radeon RX 9060 XT, 64GB DDR4, 8TB PCIe SSD, 360mm AIO, 1000W PSU, WiFi 5, Bluetooth 5.0, RJ-45, 1 Display Port, Win 11 Pro)
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AVGPC Q-Box Series Gaming PC - Ryzen 5 5600G 3.9 GHz, RTX 3050 6GB, 16GB 3200MHz DDR4, 480GB SSD, 240mm Liquid Cooler, ARGB Fans, Wifi/AC, Q300L Case, Windows 10
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AVGPC Q-Box Series Gaming PC - Ryzen 5 5600G 3.9 GHz, RTX 3050 6GB, 16GB 3200MHz DDR4, 480GB SSD, 240mm Liquid Cooler, ARGB Fans, Wifi/AC, Q300L Case, Windows 10
  • CPU Type: AMD Ryzen 5 5000 Series
  • GPU/VGA Type: GeForce RTX 3050
  • CPU Name: AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
  • Memory Capacity: 16GB DDR4
  • Model #: Q-Box 3050
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AVGPC Whirlwind Gaming PC | AMD Ryzen 7 9700X Zen5 | Nvidia Geforce RTX 5070| 32GB 6000MHz DDR5 | 1TB NVME M.2 SSD | 360MM AIO Liquid Cooling | WiFi/AC |  Windows 11 Home White
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Velztorm Fultix Custom Built Gaming Desktop PC (AMD Ryzen 5-5500, GeForce RTX 3070, 64GB DDR4, 8TB PCIe SSD, 750W PSU, WiFi 4, Bluetooth 4.2, RJ-45, HDMI, Win 11 Pro)
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Velztorm Fultix Custom Built Gaming Desktop PC (AMD Ryzen 5-5500, GeForce RTX 3070, 64GB DDR4, 8TB PCIe SSD, 750W PSU, WiFi 4, Bluetooth 4.2, RJ-45, HDMI, Win 11 Pro)
  • GPU/VGA Type: GeForce RTX 3070
  • Memory Capacity: 64GB DDR4
  • SSD: 8TB
  • Operating System: Windows 11 Pro
  • Model #: ME-129115232323
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Velztorm Frosty Dragon Custom Built Gaming Desktop PC (AMD Ryzen 7 5700X, GeForce RTX 5080, 32GB DDR4, 2TB PCIe SSD, RGB Fans, 240mm AIO, 850W PSU, WiFi 5, Bluetooth 5.0, RJ-45, Win 11 Pro)
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Velztorm Fultix Custom Built Gaming Desktop PC (AMD Ryzen 5-5500, GeForce RTX 3070, 64GB DDR4, 8TB PCIe SSD, 750W PSU, WiFi 4, Bluetooth 4.2, RJ-45, HDMI, Win 11 Home)
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Velztorm Fultix Custom Built Gaming Desktop PC (AMD Ryzen 5-5500, GeForce RTX 3070, 64GB DDR4, 8TB PCIe SSD, 750W PSU, WiFi 4, Bluetooth 4.2, RJ-45, HDMI, Win 11 Home)
  • GPU/VGA Type: GeForce RTX 3070
  • Memory Capacity: 64GB DDR4
  • SSD: 8TB
  • Operating System: Windows 11 Home
  • Model #: ME-129115273723
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Velztorm Cinnamon Fox Custom Built Gaming Desktop PC (AMD Ryzen 7 5700X, GeForce RTX 5060, 32GB DDR4, 2TB PCIe SSD, RGB Fans, 240mm AIO, 850W PSU, WiFi 5, Bluetooth 5.0, RJ-45, Win 11 Pro)
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Velztorm Bubble Cow Custom Built Gaming Desktop PC (AMD Ryzen 7 5700X, GeForce RTX 5080, 32GB DDR4, 2TB PCIe SSD, RGB Fans, 240mm AIO, 850W PSU, WiFi 5, Bluetooth 5.0, RJ-45, Win 11 Home)
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Velztorm Praetix Custom Built Gaming Desktop PC (Intel i9-14900K, Radeon RX 9070 XT, 32GB DDR5, 2TB PCIe SSD, RGB Fans, 360mm AIO, 1000W PSU, WiFi 6, Bluetooth 5.2, RJ-45, 1 Display Port, Win 11 Home)
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Velztorm Minty Frog Custom Built Gaming Desktop PC (AMD Ryzen 7 5700X, GeForce RTX 5060, 32GB DDR4, 2TB PCIe SSD, RGB Fans, 240mm AIO, 850W PSU, WiFi 5, Bluetooth 5.0, RJ-45, Win 11 Pro)
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Velztorm Minty Frog Custom Built Gaming Desktop PC (AMD Ryzen 7 5700X, GeForce RTX 5060, 32GB DDR4, 2TB PCIe SSD, RGB Fans, 240mm AIO, 850W PSU, WiFi 5, Bluetooth 5.0, RJ-45, Win 11 Pro)
  • GPU/VGA Type: GeForce RTX 5060
  • Memory Capacity: 32GB DDR4
  • SSD: 2 TB
  • Operating System: Windows 11 Pro
  • Model #: VELZ0096-ME2420222
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Velztorm Cinnamon Fox Custom Built Gaming Desktop PC (AMD Ryzen 7 5700X, GeForce RTX 5060, 32GB DDR4, 2TB PCIe SSD, RGB Fans, 240mm AIO, 850W PSU, WiFi 5, Bluetooth 5.0, RJ-45, Win 11 Home)
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Velztorm Minty Frog Custom Built Gaming Desktop PC (AMD Ryzen 7 5700X, GeForce RTX 5080, 32GB DDR4, 2TB PCIe SSD, RGB Fans, 240mm AIO, 850W PSU, WiFi 5, Bluetooth 5.0, RJ-45, Win 11 Home)
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Velztorm Bubble Cow Custom Built Gaming Desktop PC (AMD Ryzen 7 5700X, GeForce RTX 5080, 32GB DDR4, 2TB PCIe SSD, RGB Fans, 240mm AIO, 850W PSU, WiFi 5, Bluetooth 5.0, RJ-45, Win 11 Pro)
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Velztorm Bubble Cow Custom Built Gaming Desktop PC (AMD Ryzen 7 5700X, GeForce RTX 5080, 32GB DDR4, 2TB PCIe SSD, RGB Fans, 240mm AIO, 850W PSU, WiFi 5, Bluetooth 5.0, RJ-45, Win 11 Pro)
  • GPU/VGA Type: GeForce RTX 5080
  • Memory Capacity: 32GB DDR4
  • SSD: 2 TB
  • Operating System: Windows 11 Pro
  • Model #: VELZ0097-ME2436742
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Velztorm Praetix Custom Built Gaming Desktop PC (Intel i9-14900K, GeForce RTX 5070, 32GB DDR5, 2TB PCIe SSD, RGB Fans, 360mm AIO, 1000W PSU, WiFi 6, Bluetooth 5.2, RJ-45, 1 Display Port, Win 11 Pro)
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Velztorm Cinnamon Fox Custom Built Gaming Desktop PC (AMD Ryzen 7 5700X, GeForce RTX 5080, 32GB DDR4, 2TB PCIe SSD, RGB Fans, 240mm AIO, 850W PSU, WiFi 5, Bluetooth 5.0, RJ-45, Win 11 Pro)
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Velztorm Praetix Custom Built Gaming Desktop PC (Intel i9-14900K, GeForce RTX 5070, 32GB DDR5, 2TB PCIe SSD, RGB Fans, 360mm AIO, 1000W PSU, WiFi 6, Bluetooth 5.2, RJ-45, 1 Display Port, Win 11 Home)
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Velztorm Minty Frog Custom Built Gaming Desktop PC (AMD Ryzen 7 5700X, GeForce RTX 5070 Ti, 32GB DDR4, 2TB PCIe SSD, RGB Fans, 240mm AIO, 850W PSU, WiFi 5, Bluetooth 5.0, RJ-45, Win 11 Pro)
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Velztorm Minty Frog Custom Built Gaming Desktop PC (AMD Ryzen 7 5700X, GeForce RTX 5070 Ti, 32GB DDR4, 2TB PCIe SSD, RGB Fans, 240mm AIO, 850W PSU, WiFi 5, Bluetooth 5.0, RJ-45, Win 11 Pro)
  • GPU/VGA Type: GeForce RTX 5070 Ti
  • Memory Capacity: 32GB DDR4
  • SSD: 2 TB
  • Operating System: Windows 11 Pro
  • Model #: VELZ0096-ME2432932
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Velztorm Minty Frog Custom Built Gaming Desktop PC (AMD Ryzen 7 5700X, GeForce RTX 5070 Ti, 32GB DDR4, 2TB PCIe SSD, RGB Fans, 240mm AIO, 850W PSU, WiFi 5, Bluetooth 5.0, RJ-45, Win 11 Home)
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Velztorm Praetix Custom Built Gaming Desktop PC (Intel i9-14900K, GeForce RTX 5060, 32GB DDR5, 2TB PCIe SSD, RGB Fans, 360mm AIO, 1000W PSU, WiFi 6, Bluetooth 5.2, RJ-45, 1 Display Port, Win 11 Home)
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Velztorm Cinnamon Fox Custom Built Gaming Desktop PC (AMD Ryzen 7 5700X, GeForce RTX 5070 Ti, 32GB DDR4, 2TB PCIe SSD, RGB Fans, 240mm AIO, 850W PSU, WiFi 5, Bluetooth 5.0, RJ-45, Win 11 Pro)
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