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5 out of 5 eggs Great CPU but it's a mobo killer. UPDATE1-16-16 01/16/2016

This review is from: AMD FX-9370 Vishera 8-Core 4.4 GHz Socket AM3+ 220W FD9370FHHKBOF Desktop Processor - Black Edition

Pros: I've been a dedicated AMD builder for well over a decade and never had any issues that were not an act of nature or EOL - I decided to upgrade my 6 mo old M5a99fx pro 2.0 rig from a 945T quad to this along with the psu and twin gtx 750's. For a year it was every bit it was supposed to be an more and never over-clocked in fact I kept it pretty tame. I do a lot of audio & video editing and also spreadsheets and some virtualization stuff and it was always awesome until... Logged in 2 days ago to check some email and was in a browser and on skype at the same time-everything went black. oped the case and the cpu led is on, cpu is cool as a stone. VRM power area of the mobo was smoking hot. you know the rest. I am suspecting one of the caps or something in the vrm locked but haven't had much chance to check deeper as of this writing. The PSU, ram, ssd's and twin gpus are all fine in another unit. nothing ive tried will make it run short of surgery. looks like an rma for asus. I am giving it 5 eggs cause as cpus go this ones not bad-- AMD should have been shot at sunrise for not finding a way to get the energy usage down and make this more efficient. And it's definitely not the mobo's fault either-- this thing gets wild when it gets loose in turbo mode. you better make sure you have everything else to a T.

EDIT - Better read my update in the OTHER section---->

Cons: Cant really think of any other than the power consumption. I never OC and have never had to. the board was at defaults and i had turbo shut down. never needed it. I bought this with the corasir water bundle when i got it and as CPU's go I never caught it utilizing more than 70-80% no matter what i was doing and it was idling when the board gave up, don't sell the asus short, cause over the year it ran I worked it like a mule. Even with all the monitoring we have available after a while with a good running rig we do get complacent, so I wasn't monitoring anything at the time-- who would to check email? Over the time i had it ive run all versions of win 7, 8, 8.1, am in the win 10 fast ring and I load clean OS's like some folks change clothes - also several flavors of linux and various tool distros for working on others rigs and never had a single problem. only thing i can think is that the vrm had finally had enough.

Other Thoughts: this cpu was released to the public well after a lot of these mobos were growing hair. Once I know if the cpu is still intact I plan to look at some of the others out there but if your going to use this remember any cpu is only as good as the mobo your putting it on and this thing is a complete power pig. that being said do your homework and whatever you do -- dont even think about this cpu on air., I never tried it but i know someone who did and lost it and his mobo before he got the OS installed. If you know what your doing then you know the drill. this one is not for the faint of heart or noob builder. if i had to do it again I would get the 8370 or 8350, the only reason being power consumption and lack of solid, good boards to handle it long term. this is the number 1 problem with this cpu. most people havent kept em running in the same rig much over a year. do a search and youll see. think of it like a its fun but its a dice roll and then theres what happens when the best laid plans go wrong. I will rebuild it if the cpu is able. One thing for sure-- with the mobo and cpu aside-- History especially with amd chipsets, northbridges run hot as fire. especially in the 990 series. the mobo here uses the same chrome plated tubing to connect the vrm heatsink to the northbridge that everyone seems to these days and chrome is not a great dissapator-and heat travels both ways- if i had to do it again id have watered both the northbridge and vrm and if it gives me the chance, thats what I will do this time. my gut and experience tells me that the northbridge had a lot to do with this one -- the cpu never got hot--EVERYTHING else did.

UPDATE1-16-16---> The final outcome of this was a real suprise. A local buddy of mine had a shop and had a Crosshair V foumula z that a guy never picked up so I went and got it to see if I still had a cpu. Got home and threw the 945T on it to get things straight and check the bios which was fully updated and then dropped the 9370 on it and nothing.. so now I am thinking the worst and hit it again and now it throws and error code - no cooling--so i got brave-- i had a corsair 120mm air unit here and dropped that on it and it came up--went into bios fast and locked everything down well under spec to keep it sane while I went deeper. In the end it was the water pump itself that died. now I dont know what killed what so I sent a ticket off to cooler master, 5 days later I get an email stating that since this was part of an OEM package it would be referred to the OEM department, a week goes by and I get this email stating your case has been resolved thanks for buying cooler master etc. So I finally get hold of someone at cooler master and they told me that this system was never meant to run this cpu---keep in mind this came as a combo package from AMD -- next reply I got said that whoever did this hadn't done the homework and these two never should have been combined to start with -- that pump won't handle that CPU.. So in the end my best guess and knowing these circuits and the mosfets they use in the vrm, the asus m5a99 basically killed itself to protect the rest of the system when the bios got the error code from the pump. Some mosfets have a crowbar circuit built in that blows the mosfet to protect whatever' it's feeding. in the end i lost the board and I am 99% sure it was the pump's fault. So I am writing this update to tell you that if you bought the combo that had the cooler master seidon 120 system that came with it, and it's still running - GET SOMETHING ELSE FAST cause it's a time bomb and it will die. get a different cooling system quick before you lose the board or worse. At the moment the system is parked until i finish getting the rest of the new water system I am putting together for it and the new case. I will never trust a sealed system water unit again and definitely recommend some way of knowing when the water stops flowing even if its only a visible bubble indicator. The cpu will be fine but the seidon 120 is not a good match for this cpu and a cooler master rep even said so. At this point I cant really fault anything except the marketing figurehead somewhere that thought this package was a good idea. in the end coolermaster did not back it up and I can't really blame them either. I decided not to pursue the rma with asus and i love the crosshair and wanted a new case and better cooling system anyway-I have run the system a few times for a few minutes since then with everything locked down long enough to get to the win 10 desktop and everything else survived and is in good shape - lesson learned - do not cut corners with your cooling on this and steer clear of the sealed system water units on this cpu-- it's not enough!

OCZ Vertex 4 2.5
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  • neweggOwned For: 1 month to 1 year

4 out of 5 eggs 1 year and an rma later - a follow up for those doing some research 11/29/2013

This review is from: OCZ Vertex 4 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) VTX4-25SAT3-64G

Pros: I said I would update this and since there are still vertex 4's for sale these days, one year later all is well and the 2nd time was the charm. I use this strictly as a OS drive with a 1tb seagate for storage and have no issues.

Cons: Not long aftter the second one arrived OCZ mentioned in one of their own forum posts the 64 would not perform as well as the larger drives because of headroom. Had I known this then I would have gone for a 128 in the beginning. I'd bet money this would apply to any ssd. I ended up doing the rma with OCZ and the turnaround was faster than the original delivery so the 1 egg off with newegg still stands, but the drive by itself is a 5.

Other Thoughts: As mentioned in the previous review I have owned OCZ ssd's sionce the beginning. I have installed other brands for other people in their comps and these still outperform any other brand I have seen and OCZ is second to none for support. The vertex 2 I have in my other comp is now 4 years old and still solid as a rock. Doing your homework and optimizing your os to the drive is THE key factor in long life and also, one more thing, to all of you image cloners or anyone that beefs when ssd's don't show a marked improvment always keep this in mind: A OS optimizes itself to all of your hradware as it installs to the drive, some settings will not change even though you improved your hardware. The only way to see the full impact of improved performance is a clean install of your flavor of os whatever it may be with all the proper updates and drivers installed in the proper order-- yes the order you install things in makes a difference, ESPECIALLY with the Windoze family of OS> That goes from XP to current as I have done 1000's of clean installs. it's not just worth it, it's the golden rule. Don't bother with the driver doctors or settle for a quick fix, use the freshest manufacturers drivers you can get straight from their website. If you settle for anything less and you get subpar performance then remember, your the lazy one that cut the corner and whoever you bought the transfer / cloning software from is laughing to the bank because you didn't need it to start with. Nothing, and I repeat, NOTHING beats a clean os install for performance, even if your just a websurfer with a basic computer and NEVER if you can work around it , use the "factory image and all its bloatware. if you do, you will never see the true performance of your gear.

OCZ Vertex 4 2.5
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  • neweggOwned For: 1 day to 1 week

1 out of 5 eggs issues but typical - still a good drive 12/08/2012

This review is from: OCZ Vertex 4 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) VTX4-25SAT3-64G

Pros: ive been with the vertex series of drives since the first one, and since i was upgrading the mobo i wanted a sata 3 drive as well. at fiorst this thing looked and was performing like the rocket its said to be --until the bsod and then discheck windows 7 did to it - after that it was a paperweight

Cons: OCZ tools could see it but would not sanitary erase, and windiows wouldnt initialize it fropm another running computer so the new build is back on a vertex 2 and the rma process is underway. in this mass produced world every now and then a rock gets thrown somewhere-- was my turn this time-- all the other OCZ drives ive had and thier ram and power supplies always rock. ill update this review once i get a good one back.


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