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ZOTAC GeForce GTX 1070 AMP! Edition, ZT-P10700C-10P, 8GB GDDR5 IceStorm Cooling, Metal Wraparound Carbon ExoArmor exterior, Ultra-wide 100mm Fans, Spectra Lighting, PowerBoost, FREEZE fan stop
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Pros: -Looks like a step up from the Zotac 970 coolers
-Sturdy build quality
-120 available TDP
-Enhanced for overclocking


So I have a couple of these (4) and they all exhibit the same problem. When you put a workload on them, they quickly approach the 80s and then the 90s(!) where they start throttling. The fans run at close to 100% when this happens and there is no available headroom for OCing or even running it at manufacturer clocks.

Other Thoughts: This is quite disapoint as my initial impression of these cards was quite good, however after working with them for a bit it became quite apparent that it doesn't extend to the actual utility of the cards.

After looking at the cards it appears that the shroud and backplate are responsible for the problems with cooling. I have cards from a couple other manufacturers/models(5) and they run on average 10-15c cooler with the same workloads, in the same setting, doing exactly the same thing, all the while being cooler. The MSI in particular has almost a identical size cooler and fans on them, however they will run at about 1000RPMs less then the Zotacs. Turning the fan up on the MSIs brings their RPMs level to about the same as the Zotacs, only they cool a further 5-10c bringing the difference between the two cards to about 20c(!).

The coolers are garbage. As I mentioned the shroud and backplate seem to be responsible for this. They wrap the card so tightly there is no room for airflow. If you look at the cards from other manufacturers you will notice more room between the shroud and the card itself for airflow to exhaust out of. Feeling around the Zotacs, it appears the majority of the air actually flows out the vent covering by the DP/HDMI ports. Where as with the other cards there is a decent amount of airflow that leaves the edges and the back by the PCIE connector. The Zotac model completely wraps the edge by the PCIE plug.

Apparently the engineering department lost to the art department and it's really a shame as these look to be very well engineered cards that are quite well built. There is a reason they didn't send these cards out to tech sites for review. I'd look for a updated model with proper airflow and reviews from sites.

I'm have yet to remove the backplate, but I suspect good results. The shroud itself may need to be trimmed as well, which will look bad and void the warranty, but I also suspect that will reduce temps as well. It's either that or bad thermal grease or the cooler itself wasn't engineered well, however, it appears there is a decent sized radiator underneath with some good size heatpipes running through it.

I wrote a much longer review and more in depth, but Newegg requires you to login after X amount of time and deleted the entire thing.

MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GD5T OC
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2 out of 5 eggs Bad Cooler 12/04/2015

This review is from: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GD5T OC

Pros: -Cheap
-Nice MIR
-Everything that goes with a 970

Cons: I own 970s from multiple vendors and out of all of them this is the one with the crappiest cooler. It looks like it's 'sturdy' in the picture, but it's actually very flimsy. The heatsink underneath is not substantial. When running it under the same settings as the 970s (and the same voltage) from other vendors it will run 20c hotter and the fan runs at max speed (3000 RPM) which equates to a high pitch whine. Throttling then happens which means lower performance and, of course, stuttering, the bane of every gamers existence.

Do not buy this for a SLI setup.

I would return it if I could, but I can't due to Neweggs return policy. This is defintiely a low tier card. Spend a extra $20 and buy something from Giga/EVGA/Asus

Other Thoughts: I'm not sure about the green or the red variant of the 970s that MSI produces as they look like they have better coolers, but this is definitely one to avoid (the heatpipes come out the bottom next to the connector instead of over the top and they're smaller). People who give this card high ratings don't actually take time to test it or have anything else to compare it to. Stay away from this card.

Yes I'm pretty certain I didn't get a dud. You'll be able to tell yourself when looking at/feeling the cooler after receiving it. It's very light aluminum with a couple very flimsy heatpipes and plastic. 'Adequate' is a good way to describe it.

Logitech G303 Daedalus Apex Performance Edition Gaming Mouse
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3 out of 5 eggs Nice Claw/Fingertip 04/10/2015

This review is from: Logitech G303 Daedalus Apex Performance Edition Gaming Mouse

Pros: -Great sensor when it works
-Fits a claw or fingertip grip very nicely. The shape is great, although it would be good if it sloped more instead of having hard edges.
-Cool glow, fully customizeable lighting
-Nice drivers, easy to use and functional

Unfortunately that's pretty much it.

Cons: So, where to start.

-Buttons are hard to press for a extremely high DPI mouse. This equates to it moving around when you push them. Although this doesn't happen that much.
-Middle mouse button is REALLY hard to push. This means you usually end up scrolling while pushing it. Nothing quite like switch the weapon while trying to push a middle mouse button.
-Scroll wheel feels 'tacky'. It doesn't have a nice click or scroll to it. Imagine a $10 cheap black mouse. That's the sort of scroll wheel it has.
-Side buttons are useless. As per usual, manufacturers can't seem to figure out to place the buttons where your fingers actually rest and have usueless ones that require too much force to push which drives off your aim. Logitech isn't the only one that does this.
-No right side buttons. Not really my problem, but this was essentially two buttons away from a ambidextrous mouse. Sorry lefties.
-It looks AND feels like a $10 cheapo mouse. You don't realize how much this is true until you hold it and look at it.
-Button placement. In general the buttons are really poorly placed. If you want to make a fingertip or clawgrip mouse, the buttons should be wider to accommodate mixed placement, not come to a point. Once again Logitech could figure this out with a couple focus groups.
--I have a bigger hand and my middle mouse finger generally sits on the edge of the right button with my left finger on the left button perfectly.

-Whole reason I'm sending this back. The tracking on it currently has much to be desired. I tried it with a func1030 (both sides, hard pad), razer goliath (cloth pad), and on a solid wood desk. The solid wood desk caused skipping. The pads would cause a weird 'jitter' while moving sometimes. Usually this happens when doing 45 degree draws across the pad (corner to corner). Although this sometimes happened while going vertical or horizontal.

This usually means you have a bad sensor, it's not properly calibrated to the surface, or you have immature drivers/firmware. Having tried multiple surfaces, I'm pretty sure this is a driver/firmware issue.

Sometimes the mouse will track perfectly fine and it's amazing, othertimes it will start the jitter which is absolutely nauseating in a FPS. I play at high DPI (12,000). Sure I could turn it down and it would probably fix it, but that's the whole reason I bought a 12,000 DPI mouse. My Taipan I run at 8200 and it doesn't have these problems.

The weird thing about all of this is going from a 8200 DPI mouse (Taipan) to this, normally you would expect a 50% increase in speed as far as the mouse goes on the screen. It doesn't feel that way. It feels like it's more accurate, but not more sensitive if that makes sense.

It took me about two days of use before figuring out this mouse wasn't going to work for me.

Other Thoughts: I understand this is Logitechs take at making a mouse that fits claw/fingertip users, which is different from palm users, but it's pretty much half baked as far as that's concerned. Somethings, like the shape, are starting to get there, but it falls flat with non-rounded edges and poor button placement, buttons that are hard to push. The middle scroll wheel is absolute garbage and what I'd expect from a $10 mouse.

I do like how it fits in my hand, but that's about it really. I'm sure the 'jitter' issues will be fixed in a newer driver or firmware, but I'm not waiting around for it.

More research Logitech... Focus groups. A palm mouse shouldn't look anything like a claw/finger tip mouse. There may also be a correlation between fingertip/claw grips and people who use high DPI/high sensitivity as well. Palmers seem to be mainly low dpi/low sensitivity as well from people I've asked. Finger/Claw don't seem to move their hand at all while playing and mainly rotate on the bottom of their palm while moving the mouse with their fingers or against the edge of it.

I have tried the g502 out in the store and decided to get this one as it fit my hand better, however everything else that matters I couldn't try out in the store and didn't work out for me. I will be going to the g502 next. Hopefully that's in a more mature state.


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