Joined on 02/24/08
Update - GPS
Pros: This is an update.
Cons: Nothing new to add.
Overall Review: The GPS - it does NOT have one after all. I didn't realize that the device was using Bing to determine location based on wifi hotspots. I just wanted to correct my previous review.
Defective card + GPU trade-in = no GPU for a while
Pros: It's fast when it works Not as thick as my 7900 XTX Was able to use my 7900 XTX as credit towards covering this GPU
Cons: The price is criminal Mild coil whine under load Event ID 13, 14, and 153 from nvlddmkm errors galore Card had some minor cosmetic damage to the fins out of the box
Overall Review: I picked this up "on sale" over Labor Day, with the GPU trade-in program being the carrot which guided me into making this purchase. I DDU'd my Radeon drivers, swapped cards and replaced my PCIe power cables with a x4 PCIe power to x1 12VHPWR cable from my PSU to the GPU, fired the system up, and installed the Nvidia drivers. After using the PC for a couple of hours on the desktop, the entire PC locked up. I had to hard reset it. Then it locked up again. I unplugged the DisplayPort cable from the GPU and the system unfroze as if nothing had happened. I swapped the DisplayPort cable I was using for the one which came with my Samsung monitor. Then I started getting momentary hangs and glitches, occasional black screens too. Event Viewer was logging Kernel Power errors from the freezes and errors from the Nvidia driver too, while I was just on the desktop, not gaming. Less than 24 hours later, I fire up the PC and I have an artifacting BIOS and boot screen with no display output in Windows aside from flashing artifacts every so often. I power cycled the PC several times and nothing changed. I swapped to the HDMI cable which came with my monitor and at first everything seemed okay, but then the same issues began again, right down to booting it on the 2nd day after installing and having no display output until I power cycled my monitor. I contacted Newegg and they agreed to exchange the card for another one, so hopefully I just got very unlucky with this particular card. 🤞🏼 Even with Newegg being gracious enough to exchange the card, Im still left without a GPU for at least 2 weeks, and I highly suspect that Newegg will not overnight me the replacement card, even though I did pay for overnight shipping on this waste of sand. 😒 Ive been left with a very bad taste in my mouth for both Nvidia and Zotac. Is quality control for a $2,300 GPU really so hard to achieve? Samsung Odyssey OLED G85SD X870E Gigabye Aorus Elite Ryzen 7 9800 X3D Trident Neo 64GB 6000 CL 30 EVGA Supernova P5 1000W + Cablemod Basics Quad PCIe 8-pin to 12VHPWR cable
*Much* better than the Asus X670E boards, with one caveat.
Pros: Looks premium despite being a "budget" board. The UEFI is snappy and responsive - Gigabyte boards were gaining a reputation for being slow and laggy in the UEFI, but this appears to be fixed. Memory timing "recall" is stable and quick, side-stepping AM5's awful memory training boot time lag. The USB4 ports also support DisplayPort out, if you are using the iGPU for any reason. The internal HDMI port is a considerate touch if you are inclined to have a sensor panel of any kin inside your case. I am assuming this is using the iGPU and I will need to investigate this further if I choose to instal an internal screen. Hefty VRM heatsink with a heat pipe baked in + no RGB on the VRM. The few RGB LEDs under the chipset heatsink are controlable with Signal RGB, but the presentation is messy in the app (LED 8 is the entire heatsink, fyi) The wifi card is a standard PCIe M.2 card and can be replaced with another card if you like - I swapped in a Qualcomm FastConnect 7800 and the board had zero complaints. The diag LED code display can be used for other things, such as displaying CPU temp once Windows begins to load, which is a nice touch.
Cons: Stingy and confusing PCIe lane allocation - two of the M.2 slots share PCIe lanes with the GPU's x16 slot, put a M.2 drive into M.2 B or C and you're knocked down to 8 lanes for the GPU. Old board didn't have this issue. The only alternatve is PCIe to M.2 adapters in the lower slots since these x4 slots use the chipset or larger drives in the top and "D" M.2 slots. Manual is only available online, but there is documentation in the box. The MediaTek wifi/BT card is Meh according to some reviews I've seen - I replaced it before installing the board in my case, so I can't speak to that myself. The Gigabyte software will force install Norton - you'll need to unistall that after installing the Gigabyte softweare. This is pretty agregious and sneaky in my book. X3D Turbo Mode isn't described at all in UEFI, but it disables SMT and the non-3D CCD on 12 and 16 core chips. I left this off after googling it.
Overall Review: I had the X570 Aorus Master and loved it, but the UEFI was super laggy, so when I moved to AM5 I ended up with an Asus X670E board in a trade. That board was slow and buggy. I rebuilt my PC and decided to replace the motherboard with this Gigabyte board, and I'm mostly glad I picked it. The "pros" I list speak for themselves, this board is great and overall I'm happy with it. However, the above mentioned PCIe lane segmentation is really irritating, I picked out this board assuming that it would feed the lower 3 PCIe planes from the chipset and not interfere with my GPU's bandwidth. My old X670E board shared lanes with 2 of the SATA ports with one of the M.2 slots, so disabling those would divert 2 additional lanes to that M.2 slot, bringing it to x4. If you are using a "midrange" GPU this won't be an issue since most of those are only x8 anyway, but I'm using a 7900 XTX so I'm not terribly happy to lose half of my PCIe lanes. My annoyance with the PCIe lanes aside, I really like the board and the I/O connections available on the board as well, it's not super stripped down like most other budget boards.
*The* Gaming CPU on AM4
Pros: More cache than my wallet. Snappy 8 core CPU with 16 threads. Will provide a noticeable boost in frame rates in titles not already pushing your GPU to 100% utilization. Not hamstrung by high quality "slow" RAM due to large cache unlike the other Ryzen chip.
Cons: Expensive. Not 16 cores. Will likely not hold a candle to Ryzen 7800X in most games. Does not benefit from my CL14 RAM.
Overall Review: I bought this 30 minutes after launch and upgraded from a 3900X. Since I game a lot, I am the target demographic. It's not in stock often and expensive, but in games, the 12900 is the closest competitor and those cost way more. Some Zen 2 and Zen 3 parts were intended to have V-Cache at launch, but TSMC only recently perfected the tech needed to fab these 3D stacked beauties. While it's fascinating to see what we *could* have had in 2019, I'm appreciative of the tech today. So, what should you expect? If your current CPU can push games to 100% GPU utilization, those games will see minimal to no performance boost. The same applies to heavily single threaded games. Titles not able to push the GPU to 100% utilization on your current CPU will see boosts if they are multi-threaded. Examples would be Cyberpunk 2077 running with ultra settings on at 1440p - this did not see a boost from my 3900X. Fallout 76 running with ultra settings at 1440p on the other hand never dips below 100FPS now and can shoot up to 350-ish FPS. Previously this title would average around 70-80 FPS. Overall I'm impressed with the 5800X3D, and I think it'll be a solid choice for gaming for most folks. Yes, AM4 as a socket will likely see no more launches, but this chip will be able to run games at high FPS for the next several years. The motherboards are affordable, and you don't need fancy CL14 RAM to have good performance. A solid X570 motherboard, some CL16 3200 RAM, a PCIe 4.0 SSD, and a high end GPU (6800XT/3080+) will give you enough performance to forget about upgrading for a long time. My system specs: 5800X3D, Aorus Master X570, Aorus Master 6800XT, 32GB Trident Z Neo 3600 CL14-14-14, 2TB Corsair MP600 Pro, Noctua NH-U12A
Well built drive
Pros: Has a heatsink attached out of the box, hits advertised speeds.
Cons: Runs warm like all other PCIE 4.0 drives
Overall Review: I honestly wish I'd waited to buy a PCIE 4.0 drive until the second generation of drives arrived, I'd be getting an additional 2,000 MBps of speed. If the newer, faster drives are only a little more expensive than these, I'd advise buying one of those for the extra speed, but if these first gen slower drives are on sale, they are still worth picking up.
Decent midrange case
Pros: Looks slick, light. Roomy behind the motherboard plate for cable routing.
Cons: Side panel is plastic - the power cables on my GPU had made a mark on it. =( The shroud for the bottom of the case should be longer, imo, or at least ship with a second half to drop into the drive bay area - I pulled out the drive cage as I only use an nVME drive, but have no way to shroud the rest of the bottom of the case.
Overall Review: CoolerMaster offers a tempered glass side panel for this case, but I can't find any retailers in the US who sell it. Would be nice is the LED in the lower front of the case was addressable, so it didn't have to just be red or off.