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John I.

John I.

Joined on 02/28/11

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Brilliant solution / The only solution for In Win 303 owners

Fractal Design Celsius S36 360mm Silent High Performance Slim Expandable All-In-One CPU Liquid / Water Cooler, LGA 1700 Compatible
Fractal Design Celsius S36 360mm Silent High Performance Slim Expandable All-In-One CPU Liquid / Water Cooler, LGA 1700 Compatible

Pros: Clean looking without having to worry about fan extensions or splitters / hubs / how many headers you have on your motherboard and where you're going to route all the extra cables. The built in fan hub is the main reason I chose this cooler. Expandable / Mod-able. I didn't need to make any changes to the stock setup, but it's easy to do if the need arises. As an expected feature, this is awesome. Quiet (enough for me) at full rpm these fans do their job without being obnoxious. Non-RGB: In the era of RGB everything thankfully there is something understated yet good looking to choose from. Now don't get me wrong, I wouldn't have minded if the block had lights but it ended up working out better for me that they didn't (explained in the overall review). 5yr warranty Performance: Started out with this on my 2600X running 4ghz @ 1.38v. Cinebench R20 at this setting: 65c Now I just run the CPU stock, idles at 28-31c, tops out at 50c on AAA games. Couldn't ask for better numbers.

Cons: Only cons for me are personal preference: Sleeved tubing in general is something I don't care for. I wish they had the blacked out version available back when I bought this.

Overall Review: Owner just shy of 1yr. The case I put this in (In-Win 303 MSI Edition) has a unique top section that doesn't look bad with nothing in it, but still begs for either fans or a radiator. Running fans would be easy enough but I can't imagine trying to run a different AIO and having to worry about routing the cables.. it would be a pain. I had just bought a liquid cooled GPU and instead of trying to see if I could fit it in the rear 120mm port with an air cooler I just bought this along with it to complete the build and have the two main components water cooled. The tubing was long enough, but it was close. Mounting the S36 radiator with the ports at the back of the case might have been ok, but this left so much slack in the tubing it would have constant pressure from the side panel and wouldn't really look right with the tubing all bunched up. Without modding my new CPU cooler I had to mount it basically all in reverse, ports of the rad at the front of the case with 6 of the 12 mounting screws, and the CPU block itself upside down. This is where the block not being LED was a good thing. It barely worked out. All in all I feel like Fractal knocked it out of the part with this one, and if you're a In Win 303 owner... you're going to be hard pressed to find a better option.

Great CPU, but how much of an upgrade depends on where you're coming from.

AMD Ryzen 5 2nd Gen - RYZEN 5 2600X Pinnacle Ridge (Zen+) 6-Core 3.6 GHz (4.2 GHz Max Boost) Socket AM4 95W YD260XBCAFBOX Desktop Processor
AMD Ryzen 5 2nd Gen - RYZEN 5 2600X Pinnacle Ridge (Zen+) 6-Core 3.6 GHz (4.2 GHz Max Boost) Socket AM4 95W YD260XBCAFBOX Desktop Processor

Pros: Coming from an X5660, actual pros: Lower power consumption, overclocked or not Supports newer instructions Much better multi-core performance Viable upgrade path thanks to AMD's business model Better compatibility with newer GPU's (Vega)

Cons: Stock cooler is straight up scary to put on, took so much pressure I thought for sure it was going to damage my CPU/MB. Apparently this is normal. Performed just OK, but I ended up going to Scythe for air and eventually Fractal for water. Both highly recommended. No case badge. Seriously, I was looking forward to putting it on the case for my new build and I didn't get one. Shame on you AMD.

Overall Review: Owner for almost 1 year. I was on X58/1366 for 10 years, i7 920 from 09' to 15' then figured out the deal with the cheap used Xeon's. Long story short, I should've waited a few more months. Built right before AMD 3k series dropped, thought I was buying smart picking this at the end of the life cycle. The current prices of this chip and 3k series equivalent proves me wrong. I carried over my then current GPU (Tri-X OC 290) so I could directly compare the CPU/RAM upgrade. From a gaming standpoint, there wasn't much improvement. Biggest improvement overall was encoding MP3 to FLAC, which gave a massive reduction in encoding times. My advice, if you are on a X58/Xeon system, have your heart set on switching teams like I did... go with the 3k series, or probably even better, wait out the 4k series and 600 series boards that are coming at the end of the year. With that being said, if you're building your first machine or if you are on something that doesn't perform well these days, this CPU is a absolute steal. AM4 still has a while before EOL and you'll be able to game on this platform for many years to come. If you want bang for your buck, AMD is where it's at right now. The only hard decision about this chip is choosing which motherboard/chipset to go with, newer is probably best if you plan to keep it. Might not sound like it but I was glad to make the switch, AM4 overall has a lot of newer features that you either can't get or have to spend extra upgrading an old system. Gen 3/4 PCI, native USB 3, NVMe to name a few. It's an all around better and modern platform with an upgrade path going forward. Same couldn't be said about my old rig. Specs: Case: In Win 303 MSI Edition MB: Asus ROG Crosshair VI CPU: AMD 2600X RAM: Team Group Dark Pro 8gb x 2 3200Mhz CL14 GPU: PowerColor Vega 64 LC OS: Adata SX8200 Pro 1tb PSU: EVGA G2 Supernova 750 Cooling: Scythe Kaze Flex DC x4 / Fractal S36

Solid performance with Zen+ / Asus ROG CH6

Team T-Force DARK Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Desktop Memory Model TDPGD416G3200HC14ADC01
Team T-Force DARK Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Desktop Memory Model TDPGD416G3200HC14ADC01

Pros: No crazy heatspreader design / heatspreaders are hefty, sticks feel like high quality No green PCB (thankfully almost a thing of the past) Neutral color to match any build Lowest latency DDR4 you can buy Samsung B-die Solid rated performance without any fuss, set DOCP profile and go.

Cons: Only actual con in my experience is the heatspreader height with some CPU coolers, I originally started my build with a Scythe Fuma Rev B (excellent cooler). I would've had to mount the second CPU fan about a quarter inch higher than the cooling fins, didn't like the look of that so I just ran the center fan which still performed really well.

Overall Review: Owner for almost 1 year. If you're looking into an AMD build then you'll quickly find your choice in Ram matters a lot. High speed/low latency always matters but it does more so on this platform. Samsung B-die is considered the most stable though it's not a requirement. I've never been much of an overclocker, to me that's something you do at the end of a platform to extend it's usefulness, but I do understand wanting to find the limits. It's good to see others sharing their success/settings in that regard. To me the most satisfying aspect of this kit is I've never had to fiddle with it. I built on a Crosshair VI Hero that is pretty notorious for having a lot of problems. People having lots of different issues with ram speeds and LED functionality is something I have not had to worry about. Though I have had issues with this board (60% low limit on DC fans, which was solved by rolling back the bios). I've never had to do anything besides set the DOCP profile for this kit to get rated speed/latency. Which is the way it should be. You hardly see non-RGB kits in builds these days. I almost went with a different kit/brand that had led's, but was CL16 and not b-die. I'm glad I didn't go that route. While modern RGB parts are definitely cool, they aren't flawless in implementation. I got a case with built in RGB and a cheap 2 strip kit and to me it has plenty of color/style. Unrelated to the RAM but maybe useful to know is that you don't need to have Asus AURA running all the time. If you can set your colors and be happy with it, then you can uninstall AURA (your lights will go out) but turn it back on in bios and your colors are set. Even if you clear CMOS and/or change BIOS version, your color settings will remain. First time building with Team Group and I'll definitely look their way in the future. Specs: Case: In-win 303 MSI Dragon Edition MB: Crosshair VI CPU: 2600X RAM: Dark Pro 8gb x 2 GPU: Powercolor Vega 64 LC OS/Drive: Win 10 Pro / Adata SX8200 Pro 1tb PSU: EVGA Supernova G2 750w Cooling: Fractal S36 / Scythe Kaze Flex DC x 4

Pretty impressed with this low cost chip!

AMD A8-9600 Bristol Ridge Quad-Core 3.1 GHz Socket AM4 65W AD9600AGABBOX Desktop Processor Radeon R7
AMD A8-9600 Bristol Ridge Quad-Core 3.1 GHz Socket AM4 65W AD9600AGABBOX Desktop Processor Radeon R7

Pros: Bought this to go into a new HTPC build. I've never seen temps so low before, this thing idles at room temperature with the stock cooler... usually around 25c, it hasn't even hit 40c yet. Of course it'll be a bit higher in the summer months. I sort of got this with the idea of it being a stop-gap measure until Raven Ridge is released. Gaming performance wasn't even a consideration, and actually I had just got done reading a negative article about this chip in those regards when I decided to buy it anyway. Despite that, after doing some more searching around, this APU apparently can play a LOT of newer games (albeit at lower settings) with a decent framerate! I'm still really interested in the next gen APU from an enthusiast standpoint, but the likelihood I actually switch has went down quite a bit. If gaming is a priority to you, then maybe waiting would be best.

Cons: 2400Mhz Ram limitation. This is only really an issue if going to a different chip that can support/benefit from faster kits. I have no performance issues because of the limitation, it just sucks to be limited while prices are high.

Overall Review: This is my first AMD build and I've been more than satisfied with the results, this setup will probably power our family entertainment for the next decade. Specs: GIgabyte AB350M-D3H AMD A8-9600 Adata XPG Gammix 2400Mhz 2x4gb Adata XPG SX6000 128gb NVMe Silverstone Grandia GD09B Arctic Cooling F12 x3