Joined on 05/14/02
8 cores and a choice of power envelopes

Pros: - All 8 cores are performance cores - Uses laptop thermal management in a desktop CPU: Itll boost until it hits 95C. The old temperature and cooling concerns dont apply here. Will easily boost to 5.4 GHz with spirited cooling. - Boost can be adjusted in UEFI firmware settings - for example with a power target of 87W and neg 15 power curve adjustment, itll stay at 65W TDP with minimal performance loss, if lower power draw and silent running are desired. Likewise adjusting the power curve down without adjusting the power target will increase performance by a little. The max temperature could be adjusted instead or in addition, to 85C or 75C, where that is the primary concern. - DDR5 and PCIe 5 support
Cons: - The iGPU drivers are not great as of early 2023. Black screen in even simple games when, for example, bringing up a menu - recovers with Alt-Tab, that kind of thing. The iGPU will never be fast, but it should at least be fully functional. - Not so much a con of the CPU itself: Board manufacturers havent wrapped their head around the new boost behavior yet and offer default fan curves, even Silent ones, that cycle the fans up and down, instead of keeping them at a constant speed until around 97C. It will boost to its target temperature - faster fans dont make it cooler, they just make it boost higher at the cost of more noise. This can be mitigated with a custom fan curve. If your fans sound like a jet engine that cant decide whether it wants to run at full blast, adjust your curve to be a flat line and enjoy the silence.
Overall Review: Fast; good thermal management options to choose between silent and minimal power draw or loud and max power draw, with only a small performance difference between the two.
Works well for Steam streaming

Pros: Works really well, even over 802.11n WiFi. No delay in fighting and driving games. I'm quite happy with the game performance. Now if only Valve added 5.1 sound to streaming I'd be in hog heaven. Very small and completely silent, as it has no fans.
Cons: The Liva comes with a 32GB HD. 32GB is very tight for Windows. 64GB, as in the White edition, will be enough. That drive is really really slow though. Installing Windows patches took overnight. Installing the Windows 8.1 upgrade took 6 hours. You get the idea. HD space and RAM are fixed and cannot be upgraded. No bundled Windows version.
Overall Review: Does what it says on the box. It's a great little machine for streaming. Consider the White edition. Be sure you're A-OK with the limitations.
Does the job with minimal fuss

Pros: - Works, UEFI takes a minute or so on first boot to figure out the RAM type and subsequent boots are fast - Plenty of RAM and then some, even in ITX builds with only 2 slots
Overall Review: Its RAM, it works. No muss no fuss.
Efficient, silent

Pros: - High efficiency - 850W in SFX (not SFX-L) form factor - plenty of power - Fully modular - Silent - 12 pin GPU power connector for 4070ti or similar
Cons: - The cables that ship with it are a little long for where this would typically be installed. Understandable - it makes it useable in larger cases, even as it drives the need for custom cables in an ITX case. - The 12VHPWR connector is 12 pin, no 4 pin communications cable. This is an ATX 2.0 adapter, not a full ATX 3.0 implementation. Tbh this isnt much of a con: The kind of card that needs to communicate pin by pin power draw so it doesnt melt the cable would need at least a 1000W supply. The lower powered cards that would be used with this PSU dont need or even have the comms pins.
Overall Review: Good ATX 2.0 SFX PSU with 12-pin adapter for some, but not all, GPUs that use the 12VHPWR connector.
Overall good - that USB though

Pros: - Good layout - Plenty of space for a CPU cooler - 4-pin fan headers throughout - two for AIO and one for case fan; or one for CPU fan and two for case fans. - Custom fan curves can be set - An extra M.2 on the back in case you want a second drive - Four USB 3.2 ports - three A and one C - WiFi 6E, Bluetooth and 2.5G LAN built in - Audio hardware does the job; optical link
Cons: - Pointless and far too tall M.2 active cooler that snags one of the fan headers - happily removable - Four USB 2.0 ports. Really? Could those have become 3.1? Maybe the money that went into the active M.2 cooler could have been spent on faster USB instead. - Preset fan curves, even Silent, are loud. AM5 is designed to fit into a thermal envelope and boost until it hits 95C. Having the fans cycle up and down while it does that is worse than pointless. Silent fan curve should be flat until 97C or so, ditto Normal curve. The Performance curve could ramp up as it goes from 85 to 95, to get maximum cooling and maximum performance. This annoyance is mitigated by the ability to set your own custom curve. - No ECC support. AsRock had ECC on every board with AM4 and that was great. With AM5 thats gone. Not sure whether its a board limitation or just a UEFI limitation. The site did list ECC support at one point so Im holding out a tiny amount of hope. Proper ECC is worth it for ease of mind and troubleshooting, over the ECC lite all DDR5 RAM ships with.
Overall Review: Good ITX board with room for improvement in UEFI settings. Pointless but removable M.2 cooler. Four fast USB 3.2 and four slow USB 2.0. Good connectivity options. Does the job.
Works great as a boot drive

Pros: - Fits right into an X11SSH-F - Makes a good boot drive for TrueNAS
Overall Review: Tiny, gets the job done. Don't need much space for a TrueNAS boot drive, after all.
Professional delivery
The TV arrived with a local shipping company, who brought it in, unpacked it, plugged it in and made sure it was working and there were no obvious display defects. The packaging was in great shape, no dings or dents. That's all I ask of a seller - get me the thing I want, undamaged.